NOTES OF DECEMBER 11, 2017 RYE BOARD OF SELECTMEN MEETING

Final Revision C – Provided by the Rye Civic League

 

            Present (clockwise around table): Town Administrator Michael Magnant, Selectmen Craig Musselman, Priscilla Jenness and Phil Winslow.  Not present:  Finance Director Cyndi Gillespie.  Also present and sitting in the audience or the lobby outside:  Police Chief Kevin Walsh, Fire Chief Mark Cotreau, Public Works Director Dennis McCarthy, Library Director Andy Richmond, Planning Assistant Kim Reed, Building Inspector Peter Rowell.

            Persons present from the public included:  Karen Allen, Victor Azzi, Steven Borne, Peggy Balboni, Mae Bradshaw, Peter Crawford, Katherine Errecart, Brian Klinger, Jeanne Moynahan, Karen Oliver, Karen Stewart, Paula Tsetsilas, Phil Walsh.

 

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Summary

 

1.      Consideration of the Library Budget was tabled for a fourth time.

2.      The final design for the new $700,000 Salt Shed was approved, as was a bond article for this amount.  Bids are due January 18, 2018 and will likely be lower than this, according to one Selectman.

3.      The School Use Feasibility Committee reported its results.  Moving fifth grade from the Elementary School to the Junior High to free up space for Recreation appears to be the most supported option.  Combining the schools and using part of the Junior High for town offices appear to have been rejected.

4.      High bacterial levels in the Parsons Creek Watershed (an impaired body according to the State) are still being detected, particularly near Marsh Rd.  Failing septic systems in the area have been identified.

5.      A town consultant and representative from the State DES were present as a push was made for the strengthening of septic system requirements, however this was met with skepticism by at least one Selectman.

6.      The town was awarded a grant related to Town Hall, but only to do a Historic Structures Report, not to paint the building.  A warrant article to paint the Town Hall was tabled for now. 

7.      The Public Works budget was increased to provide for an additional part-time employee (32 hours per week).

8.      A warrant article to purchase the former TD Bank building to “land bank” it was tabled, pending completion of contract negotiations and generation of a budget to transform the building for town use.  Selling the Old Police Station to help fund the purchase will be explored, although two of the Selectmen were skeptical.

 

Fourth delay of Library budget approval (1:15 elapsed)

 

            The meeting was reconvened and the pledge of allegiance was recited.  Selectman Musselman then announced that the Library budget would again be tabled.  Town Finance Director Cyndi Gillespie is needed to understand the issue but she has an illness in the family and will not be present, he said.  Editor’s note:  The Board of Selectmen has only the duty to submit its recommendation, and lacks authority over Library budgetary matters, particularly at the salary level.  See N.H. Rev. Stat. Ann. (“RSA”) 202-A:6 (library trustees have “the entire custody and management of the public library and of all library-related property, including appropriations); RSA 32:16, 32:17 (the Budget Committee prepares the budget, but the Board of Selectmen is required to submit their recommendations to the Budget Committee “at such time as the budget committee shall fix.”); RSA 202-A:11, II (the Library trustees are responsible for preparing their annual budget indicating what support will be required out of public funds and are authorized to expend all moneys raised by the town for library purposes).

            Chairman of the Library Trustees Karen Oliver referred to a letter that she had sent to the Selectmen and asked that they be allowed to meet with the Budget Committee the following Thursday.  He said that the matter would be taken up at a later date.  Editor’s note:  All five of the Library Trustees, including Ms. Oliver, Karen Allen, Victor Azzi, Brian Klinger and Phil Walsh were present at the meeting, and had apparently come to support the Library’s budget. 

            Selectman Musselman immediately said “no.”

            Karen Oliver said that she believed that technically she could ask for this. 

            Selectman Musselman said that it is their opinion that the Library cannot do that.  We have always reviewed the budgets before the Budget Committee, he said.  He asked Town Administrator Magnant whether he had any input.

            Mr. Magnant said that that had always been the process.  Editor’s note:  Pursuant to RSA 32:17, the Selectmen are required to give their recommendation on budget items by a date set by the Budget Committee.  Nothing in the RSAs, however, requires the Budget Committee to have received these recommendations prior to establishing the budget for any department. At its December 21, 2017 meeting, the Budget Committee approved the Library budget as requested, notwithstanding the absence of any submitted recommendation by the Board of Selectmen.      

            Karen Oliver asked when the matter would be taken up.  Selectman Musselman said that they did not know.  Ms. Oliver said that a number of the Library Trustees would be unable to attend the next scheduled meeting, on December 26, 2017.

            Karen Oliver asked whether there was anything that the Selectmen could put the Library on notice of.

            Selectman Musselman said that they needed to understand what Ms. Gillespie understands first.  He said that the email that she had sent had not helped.  We are more confused now than we were before, he said. 

 

Public comment (4:08 elapsed)

 

            Peter Crawford noted that School Use Feasibility Committee report was on the agenda.  Some good things came out of that, particularly with regard to the census, which could help both the Town and the School, he said.  The Committee was, however somewhat stacked with parents who had a preconceived notion in terms of what could be done, he said.  If I look at the interim 2015 census, there are very few children under five in Rye.  Enrollments are going to continue to be a problem and I don’t know how a decision can be made to not close one of the schools.  We are going to be facing that within the next few years, although maybe not this year or next.  It will continue to be an issue regardless of what the Committee decided, he said.

            Mr. Crawford said that he had a second issue.  He said that he serves on the Budget Committee which will be meeting on Thursday to consider certain Town warrant articles.  He passed out a list of all of the spending that he has been able to cull from the Budget Books, the CIP Plan, and what he had heard at meetings.  There is a total of $6.6 million of capital value this year, including the Water District, he said.  That includes $3 million for the Conservation Bond which is up in the air.  He said that he is also unsure about whether the $250,000 for Shoals View paving may be delayed a year.  He said that if he could have a sense by the end of the meeting as to which of these are planned to go forward in the coming year it would be helpful.  Not knowing the full picture including what may be coming up in January may hamper us, he said, speaking for himself. 

 

(7:16 elapsed)

            Steven Borne spoke about Parsons Creek and New Hampshire Listens.  He said that he does not have the wording down yet for the warrant article and how to understand what the priorities are to address the facilities needs, whether it be the Transfer Station, Schools, this building, etc.  I still haven’t heard back from you as to whether you want to work with me on that, he said.  

            Mr. Borne said that he had been through the meeting minutes and he doesn’t have a clue what the problem is with the Library.  He said that he does not understand why the Selectmen are getting into the gory details of the salaries especially if you look at the statistics relating to the Library and how well they are doing and how happy everyone is.  It’s probably one of the smoothest running functions that we own, he said. 

            Police Chief Kevin Walsh referred to a letter of recognition relating to certain residents.

 

(9:49 elapsed)

            Katherine Errecart of the School Feasibility Committee responded to Mr. Crawford’s comment.  She said that there is not declining enrollment.  The Elementary School has plateaued in the last three years.  The current Kindergarten class is 53, which is the highest that it has ever been.  The recent declines in enrollment have been the result of Rye Junior High departures.  Editor’s note:  As Ms. Errecart suggested, the smaller number of school age children in Rye now seems to have worked its way through the Elementary School grades.  It is now impacting the Junior High grades, which has been subject to even greater declines than would otherwise be the case because 15-20 percent of the children from fifth grade are not continuing on to Rye Junior High.  Prior to about four years ago, after adjusting for New Castle seventh and eighth graders (which have also declined precipitously in recent years), there was no perceptible trend of enrollments declining as children transition from the Elementary School to the Junior High.

 

Sealing of minutes (10:39 elapsed)

 

            The motion of Selectman Winslow to seal the minutes of the non-public session carried unanimously, with Selectman Jenness recusing herself.

 

Consent Agenda (11:00 elapsed)

 

            Selectman Musselman read the items, which included a complaint about dogs running at large in the Town Forest.  He suggested that items other than A and B be taken off the Consent Agenda as the individual applicants for positions on the Heritage Commission were present.  The motion to approve items A and B carried unanimously. 

            At this point Susan Shepcaro and Mike Garvan, both members of the Conservation Commission, left.  Editor’s note:  Both individuals have been involved with Town Forest issues.  It appears that they may have been present in case the letter on the Consent Agenda led to discussion.  Shortly after this meeting, on December 16, 2017, according to press reports, a dog that had gotten involved in an altercation with two other dogs was shot and killed by the owner of the two dogs.  The owner was arrested on a felony charge of endangering the public.

            Frank Hwang introduced himself and explained his interest in the Heritage Commission.  Gail Hughes then introduced herself as a candidate for the Heritage Commission.  Both were unanimously approved.

 

Minutes (14:42 elapsed)

 

            The minutes of the all-day meeting on October 26, 2017 were tabled due to uncertainty as to what had actually happened. 

The minutes of the November 27, 2017 meeting were unanimously approved with changes.          

            The minutes of the non-public session of the same day were unanimously approved without changes.  Selectman Jenness recused herself.

 

Salt Shed final plans (22:51 elapsed)

 

            Public Works Director Dennis McCarthy, Public Works employee Paul Paradis and two representatives from Hoyle Tanner came up to sit at the table. 

            Mr. McCarthy said that the project was moving forward as planned and that they were preparing to go out to bid. 

            Marissa of Hoyle Tanner said that a couple of test pits had been dug to ascertain the soil conditions were in the area where they had previously been proposing to put the building.  There was a lot of debris.  She referred to plastic conduit.  Another test pit was dug further back, which resulted in more favorable results.  Thus, the building has been moved back 43 feet, she said.  The building has been shortened 16 feet to compensate for that, and the area around it has been reduced and the back swale is no longer needed.  The building is now going to be further up on the hill.  The elevation has been raised two feet.  No waste material will need to come out, she said.

            Mr. McCarthy said that the footings should be on virgin material, but a look will be taken at the time.  The storage capacity will be 750 tons, which is at the bottom end of what they had been looking for.  However, that is half a year’ worth.  Originally, they had wanted 750-1000 tons of storage.  

            Marissaa said that a 10 foot test pit had been dug and there was no sign of water. 

            Phil Winslow asked about the impact of the greater height on the neighbors.  Mr. McCarthy said that it will be 10 feet higher than what is there now, but it will still be below the tree line.  It’s going to be a maximum of 40 feet high, but houses can be up to 35 feet high, he said. 

            Selectman Jenness expressed concern about the height and the starkness of the white color chosen. 

            There was discussion about the fabric choices.  Mr. McCarthy held up a green sample and said that that had been chosen to match the other buildings.  He then said that he was only kidding.   There was laughter. 

            Mr. McCarthy then referred to beige on the sides.

            There was then discussion about bids being due on January 18, 2018, and an award contingent upon the warrant article passing. 

            Selectman Musselman asked whether the budget was going to be well within the $700,000.         

            Mr. McCarthy agreed, and said that they have a budget number, but do not want to release it just yet. 

            Selectman Musselman said that he thinks that the $700,000 is way high.

            Mr. McCarthy said that there would be six foot fencing.

            Selectman Musselman said that he thinks that the design is for the least expensive salt shed that would meet the Town’s needs. 

            There was no objection to proceeding to bid phase. 

            Editor’s note:  The $700,000 warrant article for the Salt Shed was approved later in the meeting.  Click here.

 

School Use Feasibility Committee report (35:42 elapsed)

 

            Peggy Balboni and Paula Tsetsilas came up and sat down at the table.  Click here for the report prepared by the Committee. 

            Paula Tsetsilas said the Committee had come together as the result of a warrant article.  Editor’s note:  Former School Board Member Mike Schwartz had originally submitted a petitioned warrant article to study combining the two Rye schools.  That article was amended at the School Deliberative Session to include other options as well, such as using space in one of the schools for town offices.  Ms. Tsetsilas said that the committee represented a cross section of the community.  Editor’s note:  8 of the 11 voting members were School Board members, former School Board members, teachers, former teachers, educators or parents of children in the Rye schools.  There were a series of meetings between June and November, Ms. Tsetsilas said.  She stated the goals were (1) looking at the school population, (2) looking at different scenarios for using the space in the schools, (3) preserving excellence in education and (4) developing fiscally-responsible proposals.  Several pieces of data were looked at, including the student population over a thirty year period, a doctoral thesis on declining enrollment, and a study by the New Hampshire Center for Public Policy on declining enrollment.  The two schools in Rye were toured, as well as the school in Greenland.  There was advice regarding the Town Hall and Recreation space needs, she said. 

            Once the criteria had been developed, seven different scenarios were looked at ranging from doing nothing to moving the Middle School students to Portsmouth Middle School, she said. 

            Historically, the enrollment has been variable.  We looked all of the way back to 1972.  We have seen recent declines.  The Elementary School is plateauing.  At the Middle School, one of the lowest levels has been reached.  We are tied with where we were in 1990.  The recent decline there has been exacerbated by students “deflecting” to private schools, she said. 

            We are not sure where our population will be going in the future.  We had predicted 38 students in Kindergarten this school year, but we actually have 53, which represents the largest cohort in the school.  We have suggested a RJH retention plan.  The first ever open house has been held for fifth grade families as well as for New Castle families which have an option of sending their children to the Rye Middle School or Portsmouth Middle School, she said. 

            Phil Winslow asked what happened in 1988, which was a similar period, to elevate the school population. 

            Paul Tsetsilas said that the baby boomers’ children at that time were school aged.  That fueled the increase in school population in the 1990s.  What we are going through is not an anomaly.  It is happening throughout the state, which is aging.  Only about 20 of the 120-150 school districts have been able to buck the trend, she said. 

            Selectman Jenness asked whether the Committee had looked at the effect of recessions on school population.  Private school attendance is affected by the economy.  That occurred before, when George Cushing was principal, she said.  It makes a difference and that cannot be predicted, she asserted. 

            Peggy Balboni said that there were a number of reasons why fluctuations could occur. 

            Ms. Tsetsilas said that the Committee had looked at how forecasts are being done.  Live birth data, a standard methodology in academia, is being used by the School District, but is not accurate in Rye. 

            Peggy Balboni said that one of the things that they will be presenting to the School Board is the use of a census, by paid persons or volunteers, to get more accurate data.  There are siblings that are not known about because they were not born in Rye. 

            We did pros and cons for the various scenarios, she said.  One of the possibilities that stood out was continuing with the two schools, but have grades K through 4 at the Elementary School, with the lower space being used for Recreation needs.  The Junior High School would then have grades 5-8.  There may be space at the Junior High that could be dedicated, Ms. Balboni said.

            Ms. Tsetsilas said that the space below the gym is large but they do not know whether it can be soundproofed.  Rye Rec. had indicated that there was a need for a Middle School After School Program that does not currently exist, she said. 

            Ms. Balboni said that there is a second scenario which may take a few more years to develop, which is to reach out to the Town of Greenland.  They have seen their population surge.  They put on an addition, but are bursting at the seams now, she said.  There may be a solution where their Middle School children would come to Rye Junior High.  That is in the early stages, she said. 

            Ms. Balboni spoke about marketing Rye to those thinking about moving to Rye, and emphasizing why the schools are attractive.  There is a lot of competition from newer programs in the area, she said.  Students are being lost at sixth grade when they are ready to attend the Junior High.  Perhaps there would be more of an incentive to stay if the Junior High also included fifth grade. 

            Ms. Balboni said that the warrant article requires that the Committee’s work be presented to the Town.  A lot of this relates more to the School Board, but the Town might be willing to share the cost of a census.  She asked whether the town saw a benefit to the census for use in master planning.  She referred to programs such as Senior Serve, the Recreation Department and the Library.  She also asked whether the Town would participate in a public outreach and marketing program. 

            Ms. Tsetsilas said that people need to be convinced to spend at least $200,000 more to live in Rye. 

            Selectman Musselman said that they also need to be able to afford it. 

            Ms. Tsetsilas spoke about the lower tax rate contributing to a lower payment.  To me, the Town, not the school, is being sold, she said. 

            Selectman Winslow said that the realtors would be very interested in this as it would be a good selling tool for them.  He suggested that they provide funds.  He also referred to 40 condominiums potentially going in on Route 1.  Eight of these will be workforce housing, he said.  He also referred to the South Road development.  If that plays out, additional houses will be brought in, he said.  Editor’s note:  The Planning Board denied approval, however the developer sued in Rockingham County Superior Court to overturn that decision.  The terms of that settlement were revealed at the December 26, 2017 meeting.  The Town is to pay $400,000, of which $300,000 is apparently coming from the $3 million conservation bond voted in 2014.  In return, the number of lots have been reduced from 17 to 13 and approximately 18 additional acres, beyond the approximately 40 acres that the developer had always planned to donate, will be transferred to the Town for conservation use.

            Ms. Balboni referred to the possibility of voucher legislation that could throw a “whammy” in the other direction.  

            Ms. Tsetsilas spoke about the need to have an accurate census figure if they are going to be talking with Greenland, as there would need to be assurance that their students could be accommodated. 

            Ms. Balboni said that the report is online now.  Editor’s note:  Click here.

            Selectman Musselman said that one of the driving forces was freeing up space to meet town needs, including Recreation other than the After School Program.  That was looked at in a lot of detail.  There had been a perception from the declining enrollment that there might be a great deal of space available.  If calculated in accordance with State standards with large classes, which we have never had in Rye, it might seem that way, but there is not much space available in the Elementary School as it currently stands, he said.  There is more space available at the Junior High.  The alternatives that would have freed up space for town use would have been to do a K-8 program at the Elementary School.  That would have involved more capital cost than all of the projects that are being looked at for Town Hall and Recreational purposes.  The idea of using 10,000 sq. ft. of the existing Junior High would have required major investment to segregate the offices.  It would require movement and reconstruction of athletic fields in sacrosanct woods.  New roadways and parking areas would be required.  There would be negative educational impacts.  Those alternatives were looked at very carefully by the group.  Those alternatives are not viable, he said. 

            Selectman Jenness said that she had taught for 35 years in Portsmouth.  There were 11 schools that I taught at.  We have seen everything.  I liked your K-4 and 5-8 split.  That is ideal if it works out, she said.

            Ms. Tsetsilas said that there are a handful of schools that operate with that model.  The current Junior High Principal came from York, ME, which has that structure, she said. 

            Selectman Jenness asked whether there was any kind of pre-school registration to get a handle on who is coming.   She referred to age two or three. 

            Ms. Balboni said that pre-school is addressed by the SAU and is now housed in Rye.  It is designed for students with developmental needs as well as for regular children.  The former have priority, she said. 

            Selectman Jenness asked whether the number of students coming into Kindergarten come from that program is provided.

            Ms. Balboni said that they do not provide that.  School Board Member Jeanne Moynahan said that the capacity is only up to 12 students.  Most of them are “identified” students, but they try to balance with typical kids.  We have basically no say.  The SAU hires the teachers, she said.   

            Selectman Jenness suggested pre-registration on a website for children of a particular age. 

            Ms. Balboni said that, right now, they check with the local pre schools such as the Montessori School and Rye Country Day. 

            Selectman Musselman said that there is U.S. Census data every 10 years which is interesting.  Every year, the state (formerly the New Hampshire Office of State Planning) provides estimates.  Many communities disagree with the estimates.  It is hard to do a count unless it is done comprehensively, he said.  I don’t know that we’ve ever critically needed a head count in total, he said.  He suggested that the school figure out what the need is for counts of 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 year olds.  Perhaps the information could be obtained from those registering a car for the first time, he said.  He expressed uncertainty about the need for data on persons older than this. 

            Ms. Moynahan said that, many years earlier, the School District had a census taker.  The person went to every household in the Town of Rye, she said.  Residents were asked about the ages and numbers of children.  It has been about 25 years since that was done, she said.

            Selectman Jenness said that it was done every year. 

            Ms. Tsetsilas said that the question is whether the census could provide any better data than what they have now.  Those discussions are currently ongoing, she said.

 

Certified Local Government Program (62:01 elapsed)

 

            Mae Bradshaw came up and sat down.  She said that Selectman Musselman had been at the presentation to the joint meeting of the Historic District and Heritage Commissions.  A woman came up to sit down along with Ms. Bradshaw.  She said that there are 21 communities in the program.  The budget is approximately $650,000, of which ten percent must be re-granted to the CLG communities.  New Castle is on the verge of becoming a CLG community she said.

            In response to a question from Selectman Winslow it was revealed that none of the towns had hired someone to deal with the program. 

            There was discussion about a 60/40 match.  The match need not necessarily be cash, it may be donations of items, the woman said. 

            After a substantial amount of discussion, Selectman Musselman said that there was a little upside, but not much downside, to participating in the program. 

            Selectman Winslow suggested that the Historic District and Heritage Commissions be allowed to proceed, consistent with the work being done by volunteers.

            Selectman Musselman suggested that the Selectmen authorize the preparation of an application for their review.

            The motion to authorize this carried unanimously.

 

Parson’s Creek Bacterial Monitoring (95:01 elapsed)

 

            Three women including came up to sit at the table.  Editor’s note:  According to the official minutes two of the women were Sally Soule of NH DES and Laura Deemer of FB Environmental.  The third woman was not identified, but there is a reference in the official minutes to a representative from HydroAnalysis.  They spoke about excess levels of the e coli swimming limit at two events.  References were also made to specific locations with high levels of a particular type of bacteria:  at BCH11, PC09 and PCOUT.  Birds in the center of the marsh were cited as a possible cause.  Issues on June 27 at BCH10 and PC07 were also noted. 

            BCH11 off of Marsh Rd. was noted as a particular issue.  One of the persons doing the samples went into the marsh, but no breakouts from septic systems were noted.  There was again a reference to birds. 

            Selectman Musselman asked about the location relative to Petey’s Restaurant. 

            In response to a question from Selectman Winslow, it was revealed that sampling is done once a week during the summer.

            There was discussion about additional sampling locations having been added at Eel Pond, Harbor Rd. and Awcomin Marsh.  BCH11 at Marsh Rd. has the highest levels.  Harbor Rd. also has high levels.  That could be due to wildlife.  At least one DNA sample should be taken, someone said. 

Canine monitoring indicated human contamination at BCH11 in 2013 and 2015, someone said.  Several malfunctioning septic systems were identified as a result of the pumpout ordinance.  Intensive sampling was done around the time of a Labor Day storm which contributed two inches of rain.  Sampling was done before, during and after the storm.  Increases were greater than 3000 percent.  BCH11 saw the largest increase, with counts of over 17,000.  Also, nitrate and phosphate counts were taken.  Decreases due to dilution were expected, but did not occur.  That means that more sources were mobilized off of the landscape.  There are potential low-lying leach fields, one of the women said. 

There was discussion about the Harbor Rd. and Awcomin Marsh locations having far fewer upstream septic systems than Parsons Creek. 

Building Inspector Peter Rowell spoke about dry wells close to the marsh. 

Selectman Jenness asked whether that meant that there was no septic system at all.

Mr. Rowell confirmed. 

 

Septic Ordinance Review (123:40 elapsed)

 

The women remained at the table and discussed possible changes to the ordinance relating to septic systems.  The woman from HydroAnalysis said that there are four requirements for a conventional septic system to work according to the literature.

First, good soil under the bottom of the leach field is needed.  Two to five feet is desirable.  Eighteen inches is the minimum, depending on the soil type.  Aerated soil is needed for microbial processes to occur.  The seasonal high water table and high tides are issues.  Other obstacles are bedrock and ledge.  If these are present, treatment will not occur and the effluent will go out into the closest water body, she said. 

We do not know the depth to water table and depth to bedrock at every location throughout the Parsons Creek Watershed, the woman from HydroAnalysis said.  She referred to a soil map, and said that most of the soils in the Parsons Creek Watershed are not great soils to treat the effluent.

With regard to percolation rates, she said, the rate should be neither too high nor too low.  It should hold the water long enough to treat it without it shooting through or ponding on top. 

She said that most of the soils in the Parsons Creek Watershed were not suitable for conventional septic systems. 

Selectman Musselman asked whether these were near tidewater.  The woman from HydroAnalysis confirmed. 

The other factor affecting the effectiveness of a septic system is proximity to a water body, she said.  Plumes travel horizontally, so there would not be enough treatment if the system is too close to a water body. 

She said that almost half of the parcels were within the 75 foot buffer area.  That refers to the entire parcel.  There may be space somewhere on these parcels where the septic system could be located outside of the buffer.

The last limit for conventional septic systems has to do with the number of septic systems within the watershed, she said.  A number of studies have been done by the EPA and other organizations to determine the carrying capacity of a watershed.  How many septic systems per acre can there be before there are problems with pollution?  They were finding that a density of more than .26 septic tanks per acre has been shown to lead to fecal contamination.  The Parsons Creek Watershed is at .45.

Selectman Musselman appeared dubious and said that it depends a lot on the soils.  The woman from HydroAnalysis confirmed.

The woman from HydroAnalysis said that both the State and the Town require 75 foot setbacks from surface waters and wetlands.  The Town also has a 100 foot setback requirement from protected wetlands.  The leach field should be two to four feet above the seasonal high water table.

She talked about the State definition of a failing septic system.  A leach field that is within the seasonal high water table is considered to be failing.  However, breakouts are the main reason that the Building Inspector is called in.  Leach fields within the seasonal high water table are a lot harder to find.  It is however, the Town’s responsibility to deal with these systems, she said. 

There was discussion about the bacterial counts that can be treated with various depths of soil.  Mounded systems can be used, although a lot of people don’t like them because they can be ugly.  Alternatively, the bacterial treatment in the system itself can be increased with alternative systems beyond stone and pipe systems.

 

(141:31 elapsed)

The woman from HydroAnalysis recommended changes to the Building Code as applicable to Parsons Creek.  They could also be applied town-wide.  All homes would be required, upon septic system replacement, transfer of ownership, or proof of failure, would be required to comply with the existing Building Code.  In addition, in these cases, systems that do not have the necessary vertical separation to seasonal high water table or an inappropriate percolation rate, would have to meet additional requirements.  In these cases, an alternative system would be required, she said. 

There was discussion about a State requirement that towns address the problems when there is an impaired water body.  In that case, the Town does have the ability to make people prove that their systems are working correctly as it is a health issue.

Selectman Jenness asked whether, in some case, the burden of proof is on the homeowner, not the Town.

The woman from HydroAnalysis confirmed, but also acknowledged that it is a gray area as it is private property.

She said that changes to the Building Code are the first recommendation.  She said that she also wanted to provide a case study.  Almost all communities with problems similar to Rye either put in sewers or clustered systems.

  She said that she found one community, Old Saybrook, CT, which discharges to Long Island Sound, that did not put in a sewer or clustered system.  Old Saybrook did not want to put in a sewer system for a lot of the same reasons that Rye does not want to do so.  In lieu of that, an extensive on-site wastewater treatment program was put in under the auspices of a water pollution control authority.  They had 2000 properties, compared to 600 or so in Rye.  There are about 800 parcels in the Parsons Creek Watershed, but for 600 it can be assumed that there is some sort of wastewater management.  Editor’s note:  Although not stated, there are apparently 200 parcels that are vacant or do not contain a structure needing wastewater treatment. 

The woman said that those adjacent to a water body must prove that their systems are working every five years.  The town digs test pits.  Funding is available, 25 percent from the town, 25 percent from other sources, and 50 percent from the homeowner, although 2 percent loans for 20 years are available.  In the last case, the town provides the funding, but is paid back.  Hundreds of millions in sewer system costs were saved.  Out of 2000 systems, 500 had been replaced as of 2016, she said.  Another 300 were designated as compliant, so it was shown that 800 were OK.

She said that she would recommend this type of program here, which would be on a smaller scale than in Old Saybrook.  Confirmation of pump out is not enough, she said.   

Selectman Musselman asked whether the Town would provide funding.

The woman from HydroAnalysis confirmed, and said that the Town is responsible.  This becomes a public health issue when there are high bacteria counts. 

 

(154:26 elapsed)

            Selectman Musselman said that, with regard to highly permeable soils, he understands what the woman from HydroAnalysis is saying.  He said that DES had done a study in Seabrook showed that there was adequate treatment in dune soils.  It determined that there probably was, although that is always a question.  He said that here, every seep that can be found has been sampled, and no significant contamination has been found.  We don’t know for sure whether the leach fields at Wallis Sands flow to the east or the west.  They may flow in different directions at different times.  He noted the absence of “smoking guns” on beach seeps.  He asked whether she was certain whether she was confident enough that there was contamination coming from beach sands that the Town could withstand a lawsuit.

            The response was that she was confident that there was inadequate treatment.

            Selectman Musselman said that she has no data.

            The woman referred to the literature.  She also said that the properties were all within 75 feet of a water body. 

            Selectman Musselman referred to homeowners being required by the new ordinance to expend $20,000 for a new system suing if it cannot be shown that they have contaminated the wetland.  He said that he had had conversations with two people who threatened that.  He asked how the Town would respond to a lawsuit.

            The woman responded that the question was beyond the scope of the project. 

            Selectman Musselman said that, before adopting language as was suggested, it must be known that the solution is workable.  He said that he is not sure of that.

 

(163:46 elapsed)

            Selectman Musselman asked what action DES was going to take to force the town to take action.

            Sally Soule of DES said that if there are failing septic systems they would work with Building Inspector Peter Rowell to remediate them.  In theory, although I don’t see this happening, we could enforce under our water quality standards is some clear cut violation can be shown.

            Selectman Musselman said that they had been looking for that for a long time.  Ms. Soule agreed.

            Ms. Soule referred to the MS-4 permit coming out, and that there would be responsibilities under that related to bacteria.  She added that the Town was already doing that so that had been fulfilled.

            The woman from HydroAnalysis spoke about additional responsibilities. 

            Ms. Soule said that it was an implied requirement, not a clear one.  If the Town does not want to clean up the water body it runs the risk of outside lawsuits from organizations that feel that you are not doing enough.

            Selectman Musselman said that they had been working hard to make progress and find appropriate avenues.  He said that he did not think that the Town would be seeing enforcement action soon.  From 1976-1991 Rye Beach was under enforcement action with regard to an ocean discharge.  The Town debated whether or not to build sewers for 15 years, he said. 

            Selectman Musselman asked Building Inspector Peter Rowell what he is doing with regard to systems with one or two feet of depth to the water table down by the marsh.

            Building Inspector Peter Rowell said that he sees test pit data only when new systems are being put in.  The Building Code allows waivers for alternative systems.  Otherwise there are parcels that could not be built on.  If there were better tools, he said that he could require better systems in marginal areas.  In the case of tear-down/rebuilds, much better systems can be put in. 

            Mr. Rowell spoke about the possible need to dig test pits under court order.  He said that the DES may have the responsibility to test systems in failure.  He referred to an outhouse that is surrounded by water in a King Tide.  They are in the process of designing a new system, he said.

            Selectman Musselman said that his firm is in the process of finishing a report in North Hampton relating to Philbrick’s Pond.  They have data on everyone’s septic systems.  Lots of leach fields there are below storm tide levels, he said.  Systems above elevation 6 or 7 are inundated periodically.  He asked Mr. Rowell his view on aerobic systems.

            Mr. Rowell said that they are feasible.  The issue is whether the benefit is worth the cost.  He said that, on property transfers, homeowners could validate that they have approved systems. 

            Selectman Musselman said that, while this is done in Massachusetts, this would be plowing new ground in New Hampshire. 

            Mr. Rowell suggested requiring validation upon property transfer first. 

            Selectman Musselman asked whether the final report would be stamped.

            That was confirmed.

 

Acceptance of Starfish Circle as a Town road (175:44 elapsed)

 

            Town Administrator Magnant said that the related warrant article had passed the prior year and it was up to the Board of Selectmen to accept the road.  The Planning Board and the Director of the Department of Public Works had also provided required approvals, he said. 

            Selectman Winslow said that he would abstain as his daughter lives on the street.

            The other Selectmen were in favor.

 

L-Chip Grant relating to Town Hall (177:37 elapsed)

 

            It was revealed that the grant had been approved for $12,000 to provide funds for a historic structures report, but not painting.  A grant for that might be entertained once the report had been examined.  No proposed letter of agreement has been received yet.  However, the Director said that, pretty much, there are no strings attached. 

            Selectman Musselman said that the Heritage Commission is willing to use all $12,000 that they have raised as a match.  However, it is not known that the assessment can be done for $24,000.  He referred to a $31,000 figure.  Mr. Magnant said that he had though that the cost would be lower, but he had been tasked with getting a quote, and it came in at $31,000.

            Selectman Musselman suggested that they be told that only $24,000 is available and have them adjust the scope to do it for that.  He suggested that they wait to see the agreement.  We cannot commit until we know that we will be proceeding in that direction.  He referred to a possible warrant article that would result in demolition of the Town Hall.  Editor’s note:  John Loftus appears to be planning to introduce such a warrant article.  Warrant Article 34 in 2017 passed 873-700 and it referred to a design for a new Town Hall by him and the architectural firm of Schaeffer & White at no cost to the taxpayer.  Although that warrant article did not refer to demolition, discussion surrounding the warrant article made it clear that that would be the result.  Selectman Musselman said that the Heritage Commission wanted to do the report now, but realistically it would take five months as it would take a month to pick somebody and another two or three months to do the work.

            There was discussion about having the town fund the report, and possibly using the Capital Outlay or the Town Hall reserve.

            Editor’s note:  There was discussion about a warrant article to fund Town Hall painting later in the meeting, however this was tabled.  Click here.

 

Surplus equipment auction (182:40 elapsed)

 

            Public Works Director Dennis McCarthy said that there were minimal bidders because there was minimal equipment and none of it was not very good.  The old International dump truck was rotted out pretty badly, he said.  The F250 needs a lot of engine work.  Those went to one company for $2887 and $513.  The only other one was that the mechanic “threw” a number on everything.  Mr. McCarthy turned to Town Administrator Magnant and asked whether his belief that he could not bid on items was correct. 

            Mr. Magnant said that he can bid.  The personnel manual allows employees to bid, but it also allows the Board of Selectmen to deny or reject bids, he said.

            Mr. McCarthy said that Jared Wile-Marble is the mechanic.  He typically throws something in on everything, with the thought that he gets everything that doesn’t get taken.

            Selectman Musselman said that he was going to pay one dollar for a transmission jack and $100 for the 2006 Ford Crown Victoria Interceptor.

            Mr. McCarthy said that he believes that that is an old police cruiser. 

            Mr. McCarthy said that no motion was needed as they were the high bidders.

            There was no objection and Selectman Musselman proceeded to the next item

 

Roll-off container (184:19 elapsed)

 

            Mr. McCarthy said that they received one proposal.  These are bid every year and there is only one bid, from Rudco.  There are typically no other bidders as Rudco typically wins.  Some changes will be made next year to try to get more bidders.  Their proposal is for $5780, he said.  He recommended that that be accepted.  He said that no motion was needed as it was the low bid, even though it was the only bid. 

 

MS-4 Technical Assistance Program (185:05 elapsed)

 

            Mr. McCarthy said that the funds were in their budget.  It’s $1750 to match their $1750 to get $3500 in work from them to review the ordinances for compliance with the new MS-4 permit coming out next year.  The motion of Selectman Winslow to authorize signing of the agreement carried unanimously.

 

Library budget

 

            This item was tabled.  See the notes under “Announcements” above.

 

Part-time Buildings and Grounds Foreman (186:13 elapsed)

 

            Mr. McCarthy said that the budget had been revised to make the full-time position that he had wanted be part-time.  That would be 32 hours per week for 39 weeks.  That comes out to $25,000.  He confirmed that the intent would be to have this person fulfill the Recreation needs.

            Selectman Musselman said that Mr. McCarthy was wearing them down.

            Mr. McCarthy said that the Selectmen were wearing him down. 

            Town Administrator Magnant said that the new bottom line is $51,499.

            Selectman Musselman said that $24,210 could be approved, or the answer could be “nyet.”

            Selectman Jenness asked whether they would also be approving the job description if this is approved.  She said that there were supervisory duties enumerated that would be beyond what a part-time person would be doing. 

            Selectman Musselman asked whether the person would still be driving plows.

            Mr. McCarthy said that the chance of getting someone that would do that was much diminished.  He offered to revise the job description in response to Selectman Jenness’ concerns.  The employee would be supervising the Town Hall custodian as well, he said. 

            The motion to approve the $24,210 carried unanimously, to be added to the Town Custodian budget.

 

Increase to Fire Department budget (193:22 elapsed)

 

            Mr. Magnant said that, since the Fire Department budget had been approved, two employees had changed their health plans.    It was confirmed that the increase was $21,200.  The motion to approve $1,427,544 carried unanimously.

 

Capital outlay:  Police cruiser amount increase (194:11 elapsed)

 

            Mr. Magnant indicated that the $45,500 previously approved was not correct.  The motion to approve $48,039 carried unanimously.

 

Capital outlay:  Town Hall retaining wall, Town Hall HSR report (194:47 elapsed)

 

            Mr. Magnant indicated that the first figure was $20,000, the HSR report discussed a few minutes earlier would be $19,000.  Editor’s note:  This is an apparent reference to the Historic Structures Report discussed in connection with the L-Chip grant.  The $19,000 would be the difference between the $31,000 quote and the $12,000 grant. 

            Selectman Musselman said that he thought that the HSR report could be funded from the reserve.  That was the thought when another $25,000 was added to that, he said. 

 

Bacteria monitoring question (195:39 elapsed)

 

            Mr. Magnant said that he was not at the all-day Budget Committee meeting, but that he understood from Ms. Gillespie that $5,000 had been appropriated for bacteria monitoring.  He asked whether they had any thoughts on how that would be spent.

            Selectman Musselman said that he thought that it would be only for PCL at low tide during the summer.  We’re not looking for “poop,” we’re looking for public health indicators, he said.  Editor’s note:  In 2015, Warrant Article 14 increased the percentage of beach parking sticker revenues that are applied to the Beach Cleaning Fund and the purpose of that fund was expanded to include “monitoring water quality and other environmental issues on Town beaches and watersheds affecting Town beaches.”

 

Mower warrant article (197:27 elapsed)

 

            Selectman Musselman read the warrant article, which referred to a $50,000 mower, and withdrawal of the amount from the highway equipment capital reserve. 

            In response to a question from Selectman Musselman, Mr. McCarthy said that the existing mower was purchased in 2007.  Editor’s note:  Later, he corrected the date to 2008.

            Selectman Musselman said that they had agonized over the purchase of that mower since he had become a Selectman as he recalls a joke over whether it needed to be air conditioned. 

            Mr. McCarthy said that one of the issues was that they had bought a very small, very off brand mower.  It is reaching its service life, he said.

            Selectman Jenness asked whether it had been breaking down.

            Mr. McCarthy said “oh yeah, in fact it’s broken down right now.  We’re going to probably have to put a couple of thousand dollars into it.  The PTO isn’t working.  We’re not too sure what’s wrong.”  At some point, the beach rake will be replaced by the State, he said.  Editor’s note:  The town rakes its beaches using a machine lent to it by the State. They want to go with the same type of rake that they use in Hampton, Mr. McCarthy said.  The tractor needs to be bigger if we’re still going to do the beaches as the new rake will need to be towed, he said. 

            Selectman Musselman asked when the beach rake would be changed out. 

            Mr. McCarthy said that it had originally been planned for 2018, but there is no supervisor with the State now, so they don’t know what they’re going to do.  People from Hampton have been up asking me what was going on, he said. 

            Selectman Musselman asked about the Patriot’s score, which was provided by someone in the room.

            Selectman Musselman asked what the Board’s pleasure was on the mower.

            Selectman Jenness said that she was assuming that it would not include air conditioning.

            Mr. McCarthy said that it might.  If the cab is closed then it will come with air conditioning, he said. 

            Selectman Jenness said that she had been joking.

            Selectman Musselman said that he had thought so too. 

            Mr. McCarthy said that it is still up in the air as they are still coordinating with the State.  The budget will be more than adequate to cover that, he said.  If we can get away with something less, we will, but it will most likely have some sort of closed cab, he said. 

            The motion to approve the mower warrant article carried unanimously.

 

Skid steer warrant article and revision of the prior article (202:17 elapsed)

 

            Selectman Musselman read the warrant article, which referred to a $50,000 skid steer, and withdrawal of $50,000 from the Highway Equipment Capital Reserve Fund to pay for it. 

            Mr. McCarthy said that the figure had been lowered for the new mower to $45,000.  The motion to revise the amount carried unanimously. 

            Mr. McCarthy said that the skid steer had been lowered to $40,000.  It would be a little bigger than what they have now, he said.  The configuration is changing.  The skid steer is used constantly at the Transfer Station, he said.  He added that he thought that this was not going to come out of the Highway Equipment Capital Reserve Fund.

            Selectman Musselman said that it is a fourteen year old piece of equipment that is used constantly.  He also said that they could approve the amount and work out the details later.  Otherwise, it could not be presented to the Budget Committee at their next meeting, he said.

            Mr. McCarthy said that this is the most important piece of equipment. 

            The motion to approve the skid steer carried unanimously. 

           

Painting of Town Hall exterior (204:55 elapsed)

 

            Selectman Musselman read the warrant article, which referred to a $100,000 cost, which might be reduced by grants, with $80,000 to be withdrawn from the municipal buildings maintenance expendable trust fund. 

            Selectman Musselman said that he had though that it would be $95,000 and that he thought that it could come out of the Town Hall capital reserve fund. 

            After it appeared that Mr. Magnant did not have the answer, and after Selectman Musselman noted that Ms. Gillespie was needed, Selectman Musselman suggested that they not act on this now.  He added that he thinks that this is an old warrant article as the Town is not getting the L-Chip grant. 

 

Expand purpose of cell tower special revenue fund (207:05 elapsed)

 

            Selectman Musselman started to read the warrant article, but then stopped and said that it was convoluted.  He said that the issue had been discussed during the all-day budget session and that it had been expanded from the purpose of purchasing ambulances to ambulances, fire vehicles and vehicle equipment.  The name would be changed to “Ambulance and Fire Vehicle Fund.”  He said that, at present, the fund is limited to new ambulances, and “folks, we don’t need another ambulance.” 

            The motion to place this warrant article carried unanimously.

            Selectman Jenness asked whether Evolve, which is in the location formerly occupied by Sanctuary Care, has its own ambulance.  The response was no.  Fire Chief Mark Cotreau said that his department services them for emergency needs. 

            Selectman Jenness asked what whether the vehicle that they had in the parade was a minibus.  Chief Cotreau said he though that that was the bus that took people on activities.  There was discussion about whether that might have wheelchair capabilities.  Selectman Jenness said that, when Sanctuary Care was before the Planning Board, they had inquired about the load on the Town ambulance.  The response was that Sanctuary Care took their residents to appointments.  They really underestimated what ended up happening, she said. 

           

Three warrant articles on ambulance and fire truck capital reserves (209:41 elapsed) 

 

            Selectman Musselman said that the next three warrant articles would confuse everyone.  The first one takes $11,500 from the ambulance capital reserve and transfers it to the General Fund.  The second one closes out the Fire Truck Capital Reserve Fund of $356,393 and puts the money in the General Fund.  The third one asks whether the town will establish a Fire and Ambulance Vehicle Fund, with $400,000 to be placed in this fund. 

            I think we’re combining two existing funds, he said.  He asked whether that could be one warrant article.  The one warrant article would be solely for the amounts of money that are there, $11,543.47 from the ambulance fund, and $356,393.50 from the fire truck capital reserve fund, and authorize the new fund. 

            Town Administrator Magnant said that they could talk to the Town Attorney.  The language discontinuing the funds would need to be in there, he said. 

            Selectman Musselman agreed with that.  Town Administrator Magnant agreed to take the issue to Attorney Donovan to see if the warrant articles could be combined.

 

Purchase of the former TD Bank building (211:49 elapsed)

 

            Selectman Musselman read the warrant article, which provides $560,000 for the purchase of the 3.71 acre parcel at 500 Washington Rd. to land bank the property for future uses, which would be for Town of Rye public purposes with due consideration of the historic and residential character of the neighborhood.  It would authorize the borrowing of up to $560,000. 

            Selectman Musselman asked whether the $560,000 included potential replacement of the leach field and the purchase of furnishings. 

            Mr. Magnant said that it did not.  This was just to start the conversation.  The language is from the warrant article used for the other parcel on Washington Rd.  Editor’s note:  See 2014 Article 4, which would have authorized acquisition of the parcel (together with the house thereon) immediately northeast of the Public Safety Building.  That article failed to pass, 320-1261.  Discussions surrounding that article revolved around using the site for a new Town Hall building. 

            Selectman Musselman asked whether there was a purchase and sale agreement yet.  Mr. Magnant said that there was none yet.  It was revealed that there was a price that was less than the $560,000.  Editor’s note:  See the video of the November 16, 2017 Tax Rate Setting meeting at https://vimeo.com/243468051 at 32:44 elapsed at which it was revealed that TD Bank had offered the building and parcel of land to the Town for $540,000.  The Selectmen then authorized the negotiation of an agreement that price, subject to certain contingencies, including Town Meeting approval and a building inspection.

            Selectman Musselman asked whether a budget was being built so that, if this passed, what needed to be done to use it could be funded.  Mr. Magnant confirmed. 

            It was agreed that they were not ready to put a number to it. 

            Mr. Magnant said that he was working with Attorney Donovan on the Purchase and Sale Agreement, negotiations were proceeding and that the Bank had been good to deal with.

            Selectman Musselman questioned whether it should be a bond issue.  He said that his thought was to make it a one year appropriation. 

            Selectman Jenness said that she tended to agree.  She doesn’t like going for the sixty percent, she said.  Editor’s note:  60 percent approval is required for bond issues as Rye has adopted SB2 voting (separate Deliberative Session and voting).  Otherwise it would be two-thirds. 

            Selectman Musselman asked why, if it is reasonably affordable, compounded interest should be paid for ten years.  This is probably “on the bubble.”  Seven hundred thousand dollars for the salt shed is too much.  Four hundred thousand dollars would probably be a “no brainer.”  Five hundred and sixty thousand is a bit much for one year.  We need more input from you, Mr. Magnant and from Ms. Gillespie, and we need to know the tax rate impact of bonding vs. not bonding. 

            Selectman Winslow suggested selling the Trolley Barn and using the proceeds to reduce the $560,000 amount.  Editor’s note:  The Trolley Barn is located across from Town Hall, down Central Rd. about 100 yards.  It is also known as the “Old Police Station.”

            Selectman Musselman said that he thought that that would need to be a separate warrant article.  Mr. Magnant agreed.  We would also need to address the Senior Serve van, he said.  Editor’s note:  The Senior Serve van is stored inside at the Trolley Barn.  That was approved a few years earlier as there had been problems removing snow from the roof of the van, which had theretofore been parked at Town Hall.

            Selectman Winslow suggested paying someone in town to put it in their barn. 

            Selectman Musselman asked whether it would fit in the apparatus bay at the Public Safety Building. 

            Someone said that it would be tight.

            Selectman Musselman said that the Town used to store the Portsmouth Police Chief’s “Battle Wagon” there.  Editor’s note:  That was an armored assault vehicle, also known as the “Bear Cat.”

            It was revealed that there was no additional space because the second ambulance had taken its spot. 

            Selectman Musselman jokingly suggested that it could be stored in the Sally Port at the Public Safety Building.  Editor’s note:  That is an enclosed space inside the Public Safety building where vehicles transporting prisoners enter.

            Selectman Jenness said that there might be space in a barn. 

            Selectman Musselman said that it is a critical thing.  There would be a lot of people at the Deliberative Session for whom it would be a significant issue as they rely on the van as their only transportation.  It is the only way for a lot of people to get to doctors’ appointments and to get groceries. 

            Selectman Jenness spoke about the Trolley Barn not being an ideal storage location due to mildew.

            Police Chief Walsh said that he and the Fire Chief are scheming in the back and would discuss a solution with Town Administrator the next day.  Public Works Director Dennis McCarthy turned around and said that there is no room at “highway.”  Editor’s note:  That is an apparent reference to the Transfer Station which also contains the garage for the plows and other highway equipment. Chief Walsh then said that they might be able to put a carport behind the building.

            Selectman Winslow said that they could just say that suitable housing would be located for the vehicle. 

            Selectman Jenness said that the money from the sale of the Trolley Barn could fund the construction of the carport.

            Selectman Musselman said that would depend on the sale of the building being for more than the cost of the carport.  There was laughter.  That would remain to be seen, he said, as it would be a competitive process. 

            Selectman Jenness said that an abutter might want it.  Selectman Musselman acknowledged that. 

            Selectman Winslow said that the building, as it stands now, is 40 by 40, or 1600 sq. ft.  It could be increased to two stories, he said.

            Selectman Musselman said that the building has its challenges.

            Selectman Jenness said that they had a price for tearing it down. 

            Selectman Winslow said that he thought that that price was way overstated.

            Selectman Jenness said maybe someone could be found that would take it away for … I don’t know. 

            Selectman Winslow indicated that the building might fetch $250,000.

            It was disclosed that the zoning was single residence. 

            Selectman Musselman asked whether it would be approvable as a non-conforming lot. 

            Planning Administrator Kim Reed said that “they” could always try.

            Selectman Musselman said that somebody would have to buy it and then make a proposal.

            Ms. Reed said that they would then have to go to the Zoning Board. 

            Selectman Musselman asked for what purpose it would be sold.

            Selectman Winslow said that it would be for whatever the purchaser wants. 

            Selectman Musselman said that the Selectmen would need to get an appraisal so they could judge the offers.

            There was some discussion in the audience, following which Selectman Jenness asked whether there was important news.

            Someone said that “we” were losing 10-27.  Editor’s note:  This was apparently the Patriot’s score.

            Selectman Winslow said that the proposal to get an appraisal and put the property on the market is very timely, particularly since the funds could be used to defray the cost of the TD Bank building.

            Selectman Musselman asked whether Town Administrator Magnant could develop that.

            Mr. Magnant asked whether he should get an appraisal.

            Selectman Musselman said “not now.”  He said that a warrant article should be developed.  He asked Selectman Jenness whether she was amenable to that.  She said that she was, but added that she never thought that it should be sold just for the sake of selling it, as you never know when it might be needed. 

            Selectman Winslow spoke about tax revenue for the Town.

 

Salt Shed warrant article (223:18 elapsed)

 

            Selectman Musselman read the warrant article, which referred to raising $700,000 to replace the existing salt shed with a larger, more efficient facility, with $80,000 to be withdrawn from the reserve and $620,000 to be borrowed.  He said that bids would be received January 18, and that he thought that the bids would be lower than this.  It could be changed downward at the Deliberative Session, he said.  He asked how much of the design cost is being funded.

            Mr. McCarthy said that that has been funded separately.

            All were in favor of the motion to place the warrant article and to recommend it.

 

Shoals View Drive paving (224:53 elapsed) 

 

            Selectman Musselman read the warrant article, which was for $200,000.  He said that we had $100,000 previously and would have spent $20,000 of that. 

            Mr. McCarthy agreed, and said that it lapses as of December 31.  Editor’s note:  See 2017 Warrant Article 10, which was actually for $125,000.  It passed 916-628, but the design/build procurement to remove all of the ledge and construct a paved road turned out to be resulted in a low bid of about $250,000.  At that point, it was decided that the town would retain its own engineer to value engineer the project and then rebid it in 2018.  See the notes of the August 28, 2017, October 11, 2017 and November 13, 2017 meetings.

            In response to a question from Selectman Musselman, Mr. McCarthy said that it was unlikely that there would be anything from Altus between now and the Deliberative Session.  Editor’s note:  This is an apparent reference to Altus Engineering.

            Selectman Musselman referred to public input advising that the articles be stand-alone.  Editor’s note:  At the all-day budget session on October 26, 2017 there was a plan to combine all of the 2018 expenditures requiring bonding into a single warrant article.

            The motion to place the warrant article carried unanimously.

 

Capital outlay:  Stormwater asset management program (226:04 elapsed)

 

            Selectman Musselman read the warrant article, which referred to a $30,000 cost and financing by the state revolving fund.  There was discussion about the wording suggesting a total of $60,000.

            Mr. McCarthy said that the $30,000 would be borrowed, but that $30,000 would be granted at the end, so authority to borrow the funds is needed.

            Selectman Winslow suggested that there be an explanation of what stormwater assets are.  There was then discussion about the wording.

            Selectman Musselman said that it would be reviewed later.

 

Warrant Article:  Recreation Area Storage Facility (229:01 elapsed)

 

            Selectman Musselman read the warrant article, which referred to a multi-purpose storage facility at the Recreation Area which included maintenance, a garage and a concession area.  Selectman Musselman said “I say good luck with that.”

            Selectman Jenness said that they need that very badly. 

            There was discussion about a three-fifths vote not being needed as the warrant article indicated.

            It was agreed that this would not be taken to the Budget Committee pending confirmation of the required vote margin.

 

Warrant Article:  All veterans $500 tax credit (230:03 elapsed)

 

            Selectman Musselman read the warrant article, which included language regarding eligibility for the credit.  He said that the words were convoluted.

            Mr. Magnant said that the wording was what had been used in other towns. 

            The motion to place the warrant article carried unanimously.

 

Warrant Article:  Acceptance of Cedar Run as town road (230:50 elapsed)

 

            Selectman Musselman read the warrant article that referred to Cedar Run, off of South Rd.  Selectman Winslow referred to this as the D.D. Cook subdivision.  There was discussion about Starfish Circle having been approved the prior year.  Editor’s note:  Cedar Run was a small subdivision by D.D. Cook, not to be confused with the Falzone subdivision (Stoneleigh Preserve), also off of South Rd.  Starfish Circle was also a Falzone subdivision, located off of Brackett Rd.  While the Planning Board and Zoning Board of Adjustment denied that subdivision, a lawsuit resulted and finalization of the settlement is pending.  Under the terms of the settlement, the Town would pay $400,000 and 13 buildable house lots would be created, rather than the 17 sought in the final application.  Approximately 18 acres beyond what the developer had originally intended to donate to the town would instead be sold to it in return for the $300,000 of the $400,000 payment.  The other $100,000 would be the consideration for the developer waiving his claims for damages and attorneys’ fees.

 

Adjournment (231:36 elapsed)

 

            Whereupon the meeting adjourned at approximately 10:42 p.m.