{"id":1005,"date":"2013-09-28T12:05:37","date_gmt":"2013-09-28T12:05:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ryecivicleague.org\/?p=1005"},"modified":"2024-06-20T05:25:23","modified_gmt":"2024-06-20T05:25:23","slug":"planning-board-september-10-2013-rcl-meeting-notes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ryecivicleague.org\/?p=1005","title":{"rendered":"Planning Board September 10, 2013 RCL meeting notes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\"><br \/>\n<html><body><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><strong>NOTES OF SEPTEMBER 10, 2013 RYE PLANNING BOARD MEETING<\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">Revised Final Revision B &acirc;&euro;&ldquo; Provided by the Rye Civic League<\/p>\n<p>Present (counterclockwise around table) (Planning Board members unless otherwise indicated): &Acirc;&nbsp;Anne Crotty, Phil Winslow, Mel Low, Kim Reed (Planning Administrator), Bill Epperson, Michael Donovan (Town attorney), Ray Tweedie, Priscilla Jenness, Jerry Gittlein<\/p>\n<p><em>Editor&acirc;&euro;&trade;s note:&Acirc;&nbsp; For ease in finding particular sections using the archived video and audio on the Town website, the elapsed time is indicated.&Acirc;&nbsp; Use the slider and the elapsed time indicated at the bottom of the video window to fast forward to the desired section.&Acirc;&nbsp; <\/em><em>Videos on the Town website may currently be accessed at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.town.rye.nh.us\/\">www.town.rye.nh.us<\/a> by clicking on &acirc;&euro;&oelig;Town Hall Streaming&acirc;&euro; at the bottom left of the screen.&Acirc;&nbsp; Follow the link for &acirc;&euro;&oelig;Town Hall Live Streaming,&acirc;&euro; then find the meeting by date under &acirc;&euro;&oelig;Previous.&acirc;&euro;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The video starts at 7:00:02 p.m. (elapsed time 0:00). &Acirc;&nbsp;Elapsed times are in minutes and seconds.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Preliminary (4:39 elapsed)&Acirc;&nbsp;&Acirc;&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>The meeting is called to order and the pledge of allegiance is recited. &Acirc;&nbsp;Anne Crotty is seated in the vacant seat created by Curtis Boivin&#8217;s resignation. &Acirc;&nbsp;The approval of the August 13 minutes is postponed to later in the meeting, given the large crowd present.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Lot line\/highway, Old Ferry Landing Rd. and Cavaretta property (6:14 elapsed)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Corey Colwell of MSC Engineers addresses issues from the prior meeting, including storm water management issues. &Acirc;&nbsp;There is discussion of signs for the street, and for no parking per order of Fire Chief in emergency vehicle turnaround areas. &Acirc;&nbsp;Concern is expressed over the proposed &#8220;no outlet&#8221; sign as pedestrians and bicyclists may proceed further.<\/p>\n<p><em>(32:49 elapsed) &Acirc;&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>No members of the public ask to comment, so the public hearing is closed on this matter. &Acirc;&nbsp;After establishment of the conditions for approval,&Acirc;&nbsp;Ray Tweedie moves to approve subject to conditions. &Acirc;&nbsp;Jerry Gittlein seconds. &Acirc;&nbsp;All are in favor.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Lot line adjustment for 135 Wentworth Rd. (41:56 elapsed) <\/span><\/p>\n<p>John Chagnon, surveyor, discusses the adjustment, which is pursuant to a court settlement. &Acirc;&nbsp;It involves 339 sq. ft. or 295 sq. ft..&Acirc;&nbsp; The exact figure is still in dispute, and the Superior Court is being asked to again review the case to resolve the issue. &Acirc;&nbsp;There is discussion about whether Planning Board even needs to approve the adjustment and what the effect would be if the Superior Court changes the terms. &Acirc;&nbsp;The decision is made to approve the lot line adjustment as it exists in the Superior Court decision. &Acirc;&nbsp;If the Superior Court changes its decision, the applicant must return for a new approval. &Acirc;&nbsp;All are in favor.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Preliminary major site development for former Rand Lumber site&Acirc;&nbsp;(1:00:43 elapsed)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Christian Smith of Bealls and John O&#8217;Neal representing the owner, and Tim Phoenix, attorney for the owner are present. &Acirc;&nbsp;Mr. Smith shows a drawing showing a relocation of the existing lot line, which goes in a northeast\/southwest direction, so that it goes in southeast\/northwest direction (90 degree rotation). &Acirc;&nbsp;The effect is that the &#8220;backlands&#8221; would &Acirc;&nbsp;become part of a separate parcel. &Acirc;&nbsp;The applicant is seeking to put this land in conservation with the Southeast Land Trust or Rye Conservation Commission. <em>Editor&#8217;s note: &Acirc;&nbsp;It appears that both are out of money, so it is not clear whether this can occur. <\/em>&Acirc;&nbsp;Barring a sale for conservation, the applicant states that it would likely develop the &#8220;backlands,&#8221; creating 16 single family lots. &Acirc;&nbsp;There is extensive discussion of the hammerhead turnaround at the end of a 950 foot private way.&Acirc;&nbsp; The private way is proposed to go past approximately 19 stand-alone condominium units (land is common, but units are separate buildings). &Acirc;&nbsp;The turnaround is located near the end of Patriot&#8217;s Way. Town departments, including Fire and the Rye Water District, want the private road to connect with Patriot&#8217;s Way, but all present from the public, in a show of hands, are opposed. &Acirc;&nbsp;The plan shown indicates a 50 foot right of way extending eastward towards the backlands. &Acirc;&nbsp;There is discussion of proposed geothermal systems.<\/p>\n<p><em>(93:39 elapsed) <\/em><\/p>\n<p>The public hearing is opened in former Rand Lumber site matter. &Acirc;&nbsp;Large numbers of residents speak. &Acirc;&nbsp;Many are from Wallis Rd. and Liberty Common. &Acirc;&nbsp;Peter White expresses concern about the &#8220;piecemeal&#8221; approach to development, with the backlands to be addressed later.&Acirc;&nbsp; He is cut off by Chairman Epperson, who rejects this, but provides assurances that the process will move slowly.&Acirc;&nbsp; Subsequently others make the same objection, which notes the lack of a firm commitment to place the &#8220;backlands&#8221; in conservation and opposes permitting development of the 19 condominium units absent such a commitment. &Acirc;&nbsp;Concerns are expressed by residents as to runoff from the property.<\/p>\n<p><em>(112:38 elapsed) &Acirc;&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The applicant in this matter, in response to a resident&#8217;s question, explains the lot line adjustment and the subdivision. &Acirc;&nbsp;He notes that the effect is to create three lots where there were two, and to segregate the &#8220;backlands.&#8221; &Acirc;&nbsp;The applicant asserts that the condominium development does not depend on the granting of the lot line adjustment to segregate the &#8220;backlands.&#8221; &Acirc;&nbsp;Town Attorney Donovan questions whether there would be sufficient frontage in that case. &Acirc;&nbsp;The applicant asserts that there would be.<\/p>\n<p><em>(114:38 elapsed) &Acirc;&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Mel Low asserts that 16 lots at $400,000 each (his assumption of land values in Rye) would be more than the Town could afford. &Acirc;&nbsp;He suggests that the applicant come back with a commitment on the backlands from the Southeast Land Trust. &Acirc;&nbsp;If that was done, and the road not connected to Patriot&#8217;s Way, this would be a &#8220;slam dunk.&#8221; &Acirc;&nbsp;The audience erupts in enthusiastic and extended applause.<\/p>\n<p><em>(118:11 elapsed) &Acirc;&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Chairman Epperson asks for a show of hands from those opposed to connecting the private road to Patriots Way. &Acirc;&nbsp;Most in the audience raise their hands. &Acirc;&nbsp;None vote the other way. &Acirc;&nbsp;Chairman Epperson appears to accept their conclusion and to move forward on the basis of there being no connection to Patriots Way. &Acirc;&nbsp;There is more discussion about drainage. &Acirc;&nbsp;Attorney Donovan notes that certain required documentation is missing, principally estimated water flows. &Acirc;&nbsp;While that could be waived and have the Planning Board accept jurisdiction, the Board votes instead to continue the matter to the October 8 meeting.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Bluestone Properties, conceptual consultation, 296 seat restaurant at Foyes Corner (150:01 elapsed) <\/span><\/p>\n<p>Mike LaBrie speaks to the application, along with Eric Weinrieb, Altus Engineering and Peter LaBrie, his brother, who is manager of the River House, a restaurant in Portsmouth. &Acirc;&nbsp;The proposed restaurant would be modeled after the River House in terms of the menu and ambience. &Acirc;&nbsp;Mr. LaBrie states that ZBA approval for 3 variances was obtained the prior week, which included permitting two entrances, reducing parking space width from the 10 feet required to 9 feet, and placing a portion of the parking lot in the wetlands buffer.<\/p>\n<p>The restaurant takes advantage of a sewer connection from Portsmouth, down Sagamore Rd. to Foyes Corner that Mr. LaBrie has arranged, which will be privately funded. &Acirc;&nbsp;Mr. Weinrieb explains how the adjoining wetlands came to be reduced in size relative to a prior survey. &Acirc;&nbsp;Residents speak against the project based on its size and traffic. &Acirc;&nbsp;Concern is expressed as to whether nearby residents will be required to connect to the sewer.&Acirc;&nbsp; Attorney Donovan states that nobody will be required to tie in, but there would be such an option if a septic system fails. &Acirc;&nbsp;Chairman Epperson states that a use intensity statement will be needed from the applicant. &Acirc;&nbsp;Attorney Donovan indicates that a brief traffic study will also be needed. &Acirc;&nbsp;Mr. LaBrie states that a 150 seat restaurant would not be of sufficient size to cover the $300,000 cost of extending the sewer line. &Acirc;&nbsp;He asserts that Pirate&#8217;s Cove had 650 seats.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Minutes, subcommittee reports and discussion about parking regulations (191:22 elapsed)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em>(191:22 elapsed)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Minutes with a number of changes, particularly by Ray Tweedie, are approved.<\/p>\n<p><em>(201:56 elapsed) &Acirc;&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Reports of TRC subcommittee and Long Range Planning Subcommittee (&acirc;&euro;&oelig;LRP&acirc;&euro;) are discussed. &Acirc;&nbsp;On LRP, Chairman Epperson reports that the Rockingham Planning Commission (&acirc;&euro;&oelig;RPC&acirc;&euro;) has statistical issues with Chapters 2 and 4 of the Draft Master Plan. &Acirc;&nbsp;Kim Reed states that Glenn Greenwood of the RPC is coming up with a price to have the RPC work on making the corrections (this task is not covered by the dues, she says). &Acirc;&nbsp;Chairman Epperson asks Phil Winslow to remind Glenn Greenwood of an apparent commitment made by the RPC when the two of them met with the RPC. &Acirc;&nbsp;The consensus is to postpone the LRP meeting scheduled for Sept. 24. &Acirc;&nbsp;The Rules and Regs Committee has a &#8220;very pregnant&#8221; Chairman (an apparent reference to Keriann Roman), Chairman Epperson reports prior to discussion about that subcommittee.<\/p>\n<p>There was also discussion of amending the parking regulations based on information provided by Mr. LaBrie earlier in the meeting indicating that most parking spaces in Town are 9 feet or less, while the ordinance requires 10 feet. &Acirc;&nbsp;There is also discussion of removing the parking regulations entirely from the Zoning Ordinance and putting them in the Land Development Regulations. &Acirc;&nbsp;Kim Reed indicates that Frank Drake and Shawn Crapo of the ZBA met with her and indicate that they are looking to reduce the ZBA&#8217;s work load. &Acirc;&nbsp;She believes that the ZBA would be in favor of such a change.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Adjournment (216:11 elapsed) <\/span><\/p>\n<p>Whereupon the meeting adjourned.<\/body><\/html><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>NOTES OF SEPTEMBER 10, 2013 RYE PLANNING BOARD MEETING Revised Final Revision B &acirc;&euro;&ldquo; Provided by the Rye Civic League Present (counterclockwise around table) (Planning Board members unless otherwise indicated): &Acirc;&nbsp;Anne Crotty, Phil Winslow, Mel Low, Kim Reed (Planning Administrator), Bill Epperson, Michael Donovan (Town attorney), Ray Tweedie, Priscilla Jenness, Jerry Gittlein Editor&acirc;&euro;&trade;s note:&Acirc;&nbsp; For [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1005","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ryecivicleague.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1005","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ryecivicleague.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ryecivicleague.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ryecivicleague.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ryecivicleague.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1005"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/ryecivicleague.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1005\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1016,"href":"https:\/\/ryecivicleague.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1005\/revisions\/1016"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ryecivicleague.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1005"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ryecivicleague.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1005"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ryecivicleague.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1005"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}