NOTES OF SEPTEMBER 22, 2014 RYE BOARD OF SELECTMEN MEETING

Final Revision B – Provided by the Rye Civic League

 

            Present:  Selectmen Mills, Musselman and Jenness.  Also present: Town Administrator Michael Magnant, Interim Fire Chief Thomas Lambert, Police Chief Kevin Walsh, Public Works Director Dennis McCarthy.  Not present: Town Finance Director Cyndi Gillespie.

Persons present from the public included: Victor Azzi, Mae Bradshaw, Peter Crawford, Joe Cummins, Deidre Smyrnos, Dominique Winebaum, Sam Winebaum,

 

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Summary

 

1.                            The Selectmen adopted the new Town flag, with a design process led by Michael Mittelman under the auspices of the Rye Historical Society.

2.                            Results of Climate Change Workshops were presented.  Maps modeling sea level rise of 1.7 to 6.3 feet, with and without 100 year storm surge, will be constructed.

3.                            Results of bacterial contamination studies in the Parsons Creek watershed are presented.  Selectman Musselman argues that a “smoking gun” has been found and that many properties may be unsuitable for septic systems, necessitating community leach fields or a sewer system to serve the Watershed.

4.                            ZBA and Planning Board fees may be increased to pay for notices in the Herald and lawn signs for residents seeking variances.

5.                            Based on bids received, the Wallis Road Box Culvert project will exceed the $150,000 voted by the Town by $20,000 unless the installation cost can be reduced.

6.                            Selectmen admit to right-to-know law violation in connection with Town Hall Committee Working Group meeting during which structural repair options for the existing Town Hall, costing up to $144,000, were discussed.

 

Announcement of new Town Flag (0:23 elapsed)

 

            Selectman Musselman apologized for the late start to the meeting, and indicated that they had been in a conversation with Town Counsel. 

            Selectman Jenness announced the selection of a new Town Flag which was based on a design by a Junior High School Student.  She gave credit to Dr. Michael Mittelman for initiating the competition, noting that he is presently in the hospital, but that his daughter had shown him the flag.  She stated that the Board of Selectmen had stated that they wanted to use the Town Seal.  She held up an initial 2 by 3 foot version of the flag.  It showed a version of the town seal on a blue background with yellow ribbons above and below.  The other Selectmen, who had not previously seen the flag, and the audience all reacted favorably.  The seal included three dates:  the date of first settlement, the date that the Parish of Rye was established, and the date that Rye was incorporated as a town.  Editor’s note:  Rye Historical Society President Alex Herlihy had noted that the date of incorporation of 1726 on the existing town seal was inaccurate, which led to plans for a new seal with the three dates. Selectman Jenness noted that Dr. Mittelman had been persistent in seeing the flag project to completion, and that he had done so under the auspices of the Rye Historical Society.  The vote to adopt the flag carried unanimously.

 

Consent agenda, Boy Scout popcorn sale (5:04 elapsed)

 

            This event was unanimously approved without discussion. 

 

Climate Change Committee discussion (6:27 elapsed)

 

            Zoning and Planning Administrator Kim Reed stated that she had applied for a grant in December 2013.  At the 2014 Deliberative Session a motion had been made to add $10,000 to the budget to address climate change.  Editor’s note:  The motion, which was made by Steven Borne, was withdrawn after the Moderator and the Town Attorney raised objections, but not until after extensive discussion.  Ms. Reed stated that she was not recognized until the end of the Deliberative Session to point out that the grant had been applied for.  Shortly after the Deliberative Session the Town was awarded the grant, so the workshop was conducted at no cost to the Town of Rye. 

            Ms. Reed then introduced Julie LaBranche with the Rockingham Planning Commission, as well as Chris Keely and Amanda Stone with the University of New Hampshire (“UNH”).  The Steering Committee consists of her, Kevin Walsh, Bill Epperson, Phil Winslow, Victor Azzi, Sam Winebaum and Danna Truslow.  Ms. Truslow apologized that she could not be present, Ms. Reed said.  Editor’s note:  The resources page on the Town website is at http://www.town.rye.nh.us/pages/RyeNH_BComm/prepare/S01CD27D1-01E9ABE1.  The RCL has also prepared a summary, which is at http://ryecivicleague.org/?p=1812

            Amanda Stone then explained that UNH has been funded by NOAA.  She explained the communities participating to date, which include Hampton, Hampton Falls and Seabrook.  She also referred to the New Hampshire Coastal Risk Assessment Commission, of which Phil Winslow is a member. 

            Chris Keely then went through a description of what transpired during the workshops.  He stated that all of the discussions are available online.

            Julie LaBranch stated that the seven communities in coastal New Hampshire, from Portsmouth to Seabrook are being assessed as to vulnerability and the hazard mitigation plans are being updated on a five year rolling schedule.  These are required by FEMA and the existence of a plan makes communities eligible for disaster relief and grants. 

 

(23:34 elapsed)

            Ms. LaBranche stated that there are two impacts.  The first is sea level rise, which has been 6 to 8 inches along the northeast coast over the past 90-100 years.  They will be modeling additional sea level rises of 1.7 feet, 4.0 feet and 6.3 feet on top of mean high which is the average over 18 years.  Secondly, the storm surge will be modeled, which will be based on new data for the 100 year storm surge.  There will thus be six scenarios, the three sea level rises with and without the storm surge.  A series of maps will be produced showing the extent of flooding.  The impact will be ascertained with statistics, for example including the number of road miles impacted or the amount of area flooded. 

            In response to a question from Selectman Musselman, Ms. LaBranche indicated that the work should be done by the end of November.

 

(32:50 elapsed)

            Phil Winslow then spoke.  He referred to an October 1 meeting with the Police and Fire Departments, Public Works and the Building Inspector.  They are looking at vulnerabilities.  The science projects a rise in sea level of 1.3 to 1.7 feet over the next 35 years, he said.

            Selectman Musselman said that everyone is looking at what can be done.  It is a complex question.  Once the maps are put together the development regulations will need to be looked at.  It will be some number of years before the Town is ready to take action, he asserted.  He pointed out that he had seen a publication that projected a sea level rise of 216 feet if the ice caps melted.  This would take 5000 years at the current rate.

            The discussion then turned to evacuation routes, bulk generator purchases and cell phone coverage.  Selectman Musselman stated that the lack of cell phone coverage is a public safety risk in the event of an injury along the north part of the coast.  There had been discussions about suitable locations for a tower but these had stopped.

            Sam Winebaum stated that he had been honored to serve on the Committee.  A lot of good work has been done.  He suggested that the new Town GIS system, as described in the Town newsletter, might permit assessed values to be overlaid on the other data so that the risk to private, as well as public, property under various scenarios could be ascertained. .  Editor’s note:  The article appears on pages 6 and 7 of the September 2014 newsletter.  The GIS system may be accessed at http://www.caigisonline.com/RyeNH/Default.aspx?Splash=True.  Microsoft Silverlight (a free download that runs on Macs and PCs) is needed to access the system.  Sadly, there is still a lot of doubt and dancing around the issue, Mr. Winebaum said.  Rye needs to tackle this issue quickly, he said.

 

Bacterial contamination in Parsons Creek Watershed (46:36 elapsed)

 

            Kim Reed introduced Emily DiFranco of FB Environmental.  Ms. Reed stated that the town had been trying to identify problems with Parsons Creek (“Stinky Creek”) since 2008.  In 2012 a grant was used to hire FB Environmental.  “Hot spots” were identified.  During the summer of 2013 planting was done along the buffers with the help of the DPW team.  A rain garden was also installed on Brackett Rd.  This work was used as a match for the grant.  Wright Pierce was also hired for an environmental study that has not yet been implemented.  Last summer, septic sniffing dogs were utilized.  Door-to-door surveys were conducted to ascertain where the septic systems are.  It has been ascertained that the contamination is human, not animal.  The residents were generally very cooperative, although a few denied access.  There were also a lot of renters, who could not answer the questions.  She and Emily DiFranco met with New Hampshire DES for an interview.  They want to do a second phase to take this a step further.

            Emily DiFranco then made a presentation.  She showed a map of the Parsons Creek Watershed, which consists of approximately 2.5 square miles and extends from Concord Point to Wallis Sands State Beach and beyond.  This watershed, which consists of all of the land that drains into the ocean near Concord Point, is considered impaired due to the high bacteria count.  Although this is one of many such areas on a “303(b)” list, the impairment means that something must be done to bring the numbers down.  In addition to bacteria, there are issues with PCBs, mercury and dioxins.  These are more difficult to deal with as they are in the sediments.  When counts exceed a limit, the related beach is closed for 24 hours and the test is repeated.  The beach remains closed until the levels are reduced.  Wallis Sands State Beach and Wallis Rd. Extension have not had advisories.  There have been 4 advisories at the Parsons Creek outlet since 2003, which is not too bad, she said.  Editor’s note:  Subsequently, Ms. DiFranco indicated that the water generally flowed south after exiting Parsons Creek and flowing into the ocean.

            Ms. DiFranco showed the cover page of a May 2011 report entitled “Parsons Creek Adaptive Watershed-based Management Plan.”  This was based on work that FB Environmental had done with the Town of Rye. 

            The sources of contamination, based on the models and times of year that bacteria counts are high, are from storm water runoff and septic systems.  Properly maintained septic systems are not a problem, it is those that are not properly maintained that are a problem.  Wallis Sands State Park has a large septic system, she said.

            Ms. DiFranco referred to BMPs consisting of rain gardens and bio filtration.  Editor’s note:  BMP refers to “best management practice.” These are on Wallis, Brackett and Marsh Roads and Geremia St.

            The town does not have septic records unless a septic system has been upgraded or some sort of permit has been needed.  If that was ever done an approval would be in the file.  They went through the Town and State files and put the information in a database.  There are quite a few properties for which they have no data.  Of 123 parcels investigated, 107 have been built on.  Of those, they have installation dates for 61 septic systems.  Of these 26% were installed since 2000.  This is not many.  Septic systems have a typical lifetime of 20-40 years, depending on maintenance. 

            Selectman Musselman stated that a lot of these are on a barrier beach.  These are a lot more at risk, particularly when there is a salt marsh in the back yard of the property.  He asked Ms. DiFranco whether she was confident that all of the parcels could support a septic system that works well.  Ms. DiFranco responded that she was not.  Parcels on the beach often have no room for a leach field, which may mean a variance allowing for a holding tank, she said. 

            Ms. DiFranco pointed out problem areas on a map.  These were on the eastern part of Wallis Rd., Brackett Rd. near Geremia St., Marsh Rd. and at the Parsons Creek outlet. 

            She showed the contamination data for 2014, which appeared to be down from 2013.  However, there were more flash storms in 2013 so it cannot yet be said that this is a downward trend.  There is also a seasonal component to the contamination, with levels low prior to July, and increasing in July as people arrive.  After rain storms there are very high bacteria contamination levels which likely indicates storm water runoff issues.

            In response to a question from Selectman Musselman, Ms. DiFranco indicated that the runoff issues could be coming from septic systems.  She described how high water tables often cause leach fields to be washed out when it rains, increasing the contamination levels in the water runoff.

            With regard to the contamination near Brackett Rd. and Geremia St., Selectman Musselman asked whether that was the area that had buffalo.  Selectman Mills interjected that he had spoken with the resident, and he has only two buffalo.  Kim Reed said that the problem is near the Massacre Site and referred to a clogged culvert.  Ms. DiFranco disagreed and described that as a separate location.

            Ms. DiFranco then showed the map indicating where the septic sniffing dog had indicated positive responses.  Four locations were near the Parsons Creek outlet and one was between Wallis Rd. Extension and Wallis Sands State Beach.  Ms. DiFranco indicated that she had never seen the dog so adamant that he had found something.  The particular septic sniffing dog used is trained to sit down if he detects human waste in the water sample, she said.

            In response to a question from Selectman Musselman, Ms. DiFranco indicated that Appledore Ave. and Marsh Ln. (sic) had not been investigated.  In response to another question from Selectman Musselman, Ms. DiFranco confirmed that the absence on the map of red dots inland does not indicate the absence of dog response, but simply the fact that they did not go there. 

            Ms. DiFranco indicates that DES had come out while they were there and took a sample near Petey’s Restaurant that showed a very high bacteria count.  DES also paid for the lab analyses, which is unusual.

            The discussion then turned to septic pump out ordinances.  A lot of towns now have these, she said.  Some apply only within 250 feet of a water body, others are town wide.  The initial evaluation is the most work.  There are then often required intervals for pump outs, typically 3, 5 or 10 years.  York, ME has one of the most advanced ordinances which provides for pumping every 3 years in watershed protection areas and every 5 years elsewhere. 

            Selectman Musselman stated that Rye had talked about this 30 years ago. 

            Ms. DiFranco stated that the Meredith, NH ordinance requires proof that a septic system is not in failure every 5 years if the system is within 250 feet of a water body.  In Yarmouth, ME all residents pay a sewer bill, and the town provides pumping at no additional charge for those with septic systems. 

            Ms. DiFranco indicated that there is not a lot of money available to help residents with septic systems.  A lot of people cannot afford the $20,000 to $40,000 cost, she said.

            The discussion then turned to the new grant application.  It includes money for up to 20 free septic evaluations, $5000 towards septic replacement for each of 5 homes (the funds flowing through the town).  Meredith, NH is doing something similar and is working off of a list of “dirty 30” homes. 

            Selectman Musselman again questioned whether all of the homes in this drainage basin that are contributing to the bacterial contamination exist in conditions where they could have septic systems that would work.  That should be the first question to answer, basin wide, he said.  He also raised legal issues with regard to providing $5000 to only some homeowners when there may be others where a septic system would not work. 

 

(98:04 elapsed)

            Selectman Musselman continued, stating that, after fixing five homes, the town may “conclude later that we have no choice but to get this wastewater collected and dealt with in a community leach field off site or connected to Hampton, or something…”  The next step, rather than to fix four or five problem homes, should be

 

an eyes open assessment as to whether or not this drainage basin can be served by on site septic systems.  And that’s been a question in Rye for 30 years.  We now have a smoking gun.  We know that it doesn’t work at Concord Point.  We know it doesn’t work in the east end of Wallis Beach (sic) and there are questions as to whether it’s working at Wallis, Appledore and Marsh Rd. and what not...” 

 

He suggested an evaluation of homes in problem areas and indicated that half of those might need to be served by something other than an on site septic system. 

            Ms. DiFranco indicated that the grant funds could not be increased.  The allotment might be changed, she said.  The DES would want to see some replacements however, she said.  She said that all of the homes that would have a septic system replacement would have a site evaluation first.

            Ms. DiFranco stated that they had asked for $100,000 and DES agreed to provide $70,000.  A match of $45,000 would be needed, most of which could be in kind. 

            There was then discussion about the signs warning of water quality issues.  Public Works Director Dennis McCarthy indicated that he believed that they had been picked up for the season.  Selectman Musselman indicated that a permanent sign was needed.  Victor Azzi, speaking from the audience, indicated that there were no signs at Wallis Sands State Park or at Wallis Rd., points at which the beach can be accessed.  Those traveling to the Parsons Creek area by walking along the beach would not see any signs, he said.  Mr. McCarthy indicated that there were signs at multiple locations, but the ones on the beach frequently fell down due to the tides.  Only those in the parking area stay up, he said.  Editor’s note:  See the notes of the July 14, 2014 meeting, at which permanent signs at the Parsons Creek outlet were agreed to.

 

(109:50 elapsed)

            Mr. Azzi asked about Hampton Beach and Wallis Sands Beach which he said are invariably are said to be among the cleanest beaches in New England.  Selectman Mills responded “you can figure that one out, you ain’t that dumb.  I said it’s promoted by the State of New Hampshire as a tourist attraction.  Hampton Beach and Wallis Sands.  That’s why you’ve got clean beaches.”

            Ms. DiFranco asserted that the water from Parson’s Creek flows south and does not come near Wallis Sands State Beach.  Mr. McCarthy said that the problem is only at low tide.  “The answer to pollution is dilution,” he said. 

            Joe Cummins asked about the rate structure in Meredith.

            Sam Winebaum referred back to the earlier presentation and said that rising sea levels will make water tables higher and septic systems less and less feasible.  He questioned whether many of the homes west of Route 1A even have septic systems. 

            Selectman Mills asked about FP Environmental’s suggestion about moving the portable toilet from the bank near Wallis Rd.  Ms. DiFranco stated that there are high bacteria counts in the area and any sort of crack or a leak would be a problem.  Mr. McCarthy said that these were not the Town’s toilets.  Selectman Musselman questioned whether the toilets could really be a risk.  Kim Reed clarified the ownership of the toilet and referred to it as belonging to the same person who owns the Red Roof Market and the little surf shop.  The Town has no control over it unless he sells the property or comes before the Planning Board for a site review, she said.  Selectman Mills asked whether it was a public health issue.  Selectman Musselman said that it was probably not a public health issue unless it overflows.

            Victor Azzi stated that he supported the proposed direction.  He stated that, in the beginning, regular, recorded pump outs are needed, and the failed systems need to be replaced.  But, there are houses with no systems at all.  He asked how these would be identified.  Selectman Musselman stated that the process would be to go house by house to determine which lots would support systems. 

            Selectman Mills mentioned that Concord Point had only one house in 1978 and the road has since been rerouted.  There was then discussion about the homeowners in that location.  Selectman Mills questioned paying $5000 to help someone with a summer house on the beach put a septic system.  There would be a lot of objections from those inland.  “That ain’t happening,” he said. 

            Selectman Musselman stated that Town Meeting approval might be needed to provide funds to homeowners.  Selectman Mills said that those who would be getting the benefit are not even voters in Town.  Ms. DiFranco said that she would talk with DES to see if the money could be provided directly from them to the homeowners.  Selectman Musselman said that that would be much better.

 

Increase in ZBA fees (120:18 elapsed)

 

            Ms. Reed pointed out the high cost of publishing notices in the Portsmouth Herald.  It is $24.19 per column inch with a $30 flat charge for online posting, she said.  The current fee is $50 per applicant.  The ZBA has approved an increase to $80 which would cover their charges.  She rattled off a number of other charges per application and per abutter.

            She then stated that a lot of complaints were being received from neighbors who are not direct abutters and thus did not receive notice.  Dover and Portsmouth require the posting of signs.  They will be buying signs, which would cost the applicant $8.  The size is 3 by 4.  Selectman Mills asked about maximum size under town ordinances.  The response was that it was 2 by 2.  Ms. Reed indicated that they would be limited to that size.  Posting would be required 7 days before the hearing.  Selectman Mills moved to approve the fee increases.  Before there was a second, Town Administrator Magnant noted that a public hearing would be needed prior to an increase in fees.  Selectman Mills then moved to schedule a public hearing and Selectman Jenness seconded the motion.  All were in favor.

            Ms. Reed indicated that she will be asking the Planning Board if they would like to do the same thing with regard to the signs and legal notices.

 

Recycling Education Committee, donation of swap shop goods, pay as you throw (124:23 elapsed)

 

            Selectman Musselman read the agenda item, which requests permission for the DPW to donate swap shop items to the local charity New Generation.  Deidre Smyrnos and an unidentified woman were present.  The unidentified woman indicated that New Generation would come weekly on Monday and pick up goods from the swap shop that would otherwise be thrown out.  Selectman Mills cautioned that they would get some static as some people are regulars at the swap shop.  The woman indicated that she is referring to items that are being thrown out.  She said that it is a “no brainer” as the Town has to pay for what is thrown out. 

            Selectman Musselman indicated that Public Works Director Dennis McCarthy could deal with the issue.  Mr. McCarthy stated that he does not have the authority to give away items that the Town might believe have value.  That led to a discussion focusing on the point at which items are transformed into trash having no value. 

            Mr. McCarthy stated that the swap shop is cleared once or twice a week as there is insufficient room.  Tuesday mornings the items are put in the dumpsters.  In the process, what is on the floor is placed on the shelves and items that have been present for a long time are thrown out.  Mr. McCarthy said that the proposal is that the charity will cull through the items on Monday, prior to the DPW restocking the shelves.  He cautioned that it would need to be done on Monday when nobody is there, lest there be fights.

            Selectman Mills related a story about how someone had taken his jacket off and had it discarded during the restocking process.  He submitted a bill for $25.  Mr. McCarthy stated that they can only do work in the swap shop in Mondays, otherwise people will take the tools.

            Selectman Musselman stated that, as long as the Recycling Education Committee is present, he has noted that it appears that the Committee is seeking to come before the Budget Committee to present their proposed pay-as-you-throw program.  Editor’s note:  See the notes of the June 23, 2014 meeting during which it was proposed that residents be required to purchase, for $2.00 each, special trash bags to discard their trash.  Recycled trash could still be discarded at no charge.  Selectman Musselman stated that they do not yet have the support of the Board of Selectmen, in fact he is not sure that they have any support on the Board of Selectmen.  It is not clear that this will become a Town warrant article, he said.  Ms. Smyrnos indicated that there was interest in this among the members of the Budget and Energy Committees and they wanted to make a presentation.

 

Bid results, Wallis Road Box Culvert construction (130:41 elapsed)

 

            Dennis McCarthy stated that WP Davis Excavation had provided the lowest bid, which was $137,795.  Costs incurred to date include $10,000 to Wright Pierce for bidding and construction services and $22,000 for the box culvert which the Town is purchasing.  As a result, they are approximately $20,000 over the warrant article approved sum of $150,000.  Editor’s note:  2014 Warrant Article 11 provided this sum, passing 1075-534.  They will be meeting with WP Davis to see if some money can be shaved off of the bid.  There are also other Public Works funds that can be redirected, he said.  They will be coming back to the Board of Selectmen.  The proper process is to award the contract and then renegotiate with the low bidder.

            There was then discussion about whether the box culvert would be shortened.  The guard rails may be shortened and the road may be shut down as the bidders were concerned about the need to keep the road open.  They may be able to complete the work with a 2-3 day closure.  Mr. McCarthy stated that the box culvert had already been purchased, so shortening it is not an option. 

            Selectman Jenness raised the issue, which she had seen on television, of guard rails that become spears during a collision.  Mr. McCarthy stated that the ends of the guard rails has been a controversial issue.  They swing the ends back in a big curl so they cannot be hit.

 

Heisey request for restoration of involuntarily merged lots (134:05 elapsed)

 

            The matter was tabled until requested information is received regarding the lots in question.

 

Receipt of Roads Scholar status for Roy Hill (135:08 elapsed)

 

            Dennis McCarthy summarized the program, which is set up through UNH.  There is funding from federal highway funds.  After 20 years Roy made Scholar 1.  A couple of guys are already Scholar 1 and will be becoming Scholar 2.  There is one Master Scholar is the highest level. There is also a plow driver competition.  That led to discussion of the course, and whether it still includes the avoidance of hanging mailboxes. 

 

Letter from Peter Crawford regarding violation of right-to-know law with regard to Town Hall Committee Working Group meeting (140:10 elapsed)

 

            Selectman Musselman suggested that the letter be included in the minutes.  He stated that Mr. Crawford had referred to a Town Hall Committee Working Group meetings had been intended to consist of three persons.  This informal subgroup had been meeting the previous Thursday.  Unknown to Selectman Musselman and Jenness, both attended.  Selectman Musselman said that they:

 

both sat and listened to the first part of the meeting, which was a meeting with the structural engineers for the first time since an issue regarding the structural renovation of this building came up and Peter is absolutely correct, with both of us there it became a Selectmen’s meeting.  It was inadvertent.  You can chastise us all you wish, we apologize for having done that inadvertently.” 

 

The matter will be referred to Town Counsel to see what they need to do differently, he said.  He is of a mind that they should not have Working Group meetings, but only full Town Hall Committee meetings, he said. 

            Selectman Jenness added that the Working Group came about because the architect wanted to meet during the day to move things along.  As soon as the discussion was over she left, and she heard Selectman Musselman say that he needed to leave to go to work.  They were not present for the subsequent discussion.

            Editor’s note:  The architect working on the Town Hall design has discovered that the existing building is structurally deficient.  The structural engineers, working under subcontract to the architect, came to the meeting of the Working Group to present their conclusions and two options for resolving the deficiency.  The first option entailed visible interior steel reinforcement, estimated to cost approximately $67,000.  The second option would provide an invisible solution involving the replacement of eight vertical members within the walls with steel, estimated to cost approximately $144,000.  See the notes of the September 11 and 18, 2014 Town Hall Working Group meetings and the videos of the meetings.  The video of the first meeting may be found at https://vimeo.com/106236576, the September 18 video is on the Town website.  Following the presentation of the structural engineers, the group convened upstairs to observe the Great Hall and ascertain how the aesthetics of the first option.  During that discussion, Selectman Musselman in particular had extensive questions and comments and Selectman Jenness also participated in the discussion.  To say that the Selectmen “sat and listened” is misleading.

            Selectman Musselman denied that a decision had been made.  There was a straw poll taken.  The decision would be made by the full Town Hall Committee at its meeting on September 30, he said.  Editor’s note:  In fact, 4 of the 9 members of the Town Hall Committee participated in the straw poll, and Mr. Crawford’s letter asserts that Town Clerk Beth Yeaton, who is a member of the Town Hall Committee, polled the two Selectmen following the meeting, thus ascertaining that 6 of the 9 members favored the second option.

            Selectman Musselman asserted that Mr. Crawford’s letter incorrectly asserted that the Public Safety Building was over budget.  In fact, expenditures were less than those authorized and money was returned to the General Fund, he asserted. 

            Editor’s note:  In fact, the letter refers to a perception in town that there were “serious cost overruns,” and did not assert that it was over budget.  The reference to “cost overruns” refers to the fact that there were assertions that substantially more than the contracted amount was spent, not that the much higher amount appropriated by taxpayers had been exceeded.  See in particular the minutes of the January 12, 2004 Board of Selectmen meeting (referring to a $3,844,105 bond issue for the Public Safety Building) and the minutes of the October 29, 2004 Board of Selectmen meeting (referring to a low bid from Horne (to whom the contract was ultimately awarded) of $2,850,000). These figures are cited merely to demonstrate that it is misleading to compare the ultimate cost to the budget when the contracted amount (based on the low bid) was substantially less than the budget.  It must however be recognized that this is not a true “apples to apples” comparison as there are differences between what is included in each figure.

            Mr. Crawford, responding to Selectman Musselman, stated that he was not opposed to the Working Group, which is legal.  However, it is itself a public body and must have noticed meetings and minutes.

            Selectman Jenness, referring to the May 3 minutes of the Town Hall Committee, stated that the minutes reflect that Selectman Musselman had asked whether the Working Group meetings would be noticed.  Mr. Crawford acknowledged that this was a positive comment which raised the issue, and reiterated that the meetings should have been noticed.

 

(144:13 elapsed)

            Selectman Mills raised his voice and asked whether Mr. Crawford was asserting that they were trying to do something dishonest.  Mr. Crawford responded that he was not.  He stated that his intent was to make sure that everything is open.

            Selectman Musselman stated that the workings of the Town Hall Committee have been open since day one and the public has been invited and they have endeavored to notice them and have people involved.  They had not thought in detail about inviting the public to the Working Group meetings as the whole Town Hall Committee had not even been invited, although they were welcome to be present.  But, a smaller group was needed.  They are working their way though it and trying to comply as they know they must, he said.

 

Beavers and muskrats (145:32 elapsed)

 

            Public Works Director Dennis McCarthy stated that some complaints from residents had been received regarding beavers and muskrats on private property and on Conservation Commission property.  He stated that a policy is needed.  He referred to a complaint at 750 Central that Selectman Mills had received.  They went to look at it, and there is a small beaver that may be looking to relocate into other areas. 

            Eventually the beavers may plug up culverts, which is the point at which it should be dealt with, rather than going onto private property.  Trappers are hard to find.  They now look at it as varmint control, which can cost $500 per beaver.  The beavers may be passing through the culverts but are not plugging them yet.  They will flush the culvert with water to make sure that it is not plugged.

 

Solid waste disposal contract bids (148:37 elapsed)

 

            Selectman Musselman announced that the Town’s current cost is in the high $70s per ton, and that proposals have been received for $61 or $68 per ton with some adjustments depending on how many communities participate in the arrangement.  Mr. McCarthy will be coming back to the Board in October and a decision will need to be made as to which of the two proposals will be accepted. 

            Mr. McCarthy stated that the current cost is approximately $78 per ton.  The hauling contract will probably be re-bid July 1.  Selectman Musselman stated that Rye could not determine which option is best until it is determined whether other communities want to remain part of the arrangement.  If Rye is going to withdraw from the District, a warrant article to be voted on in March would be needed, which means that a decision will be needed by December, Selectman Musselman said.  Mr. McCarthy stated that the District would be meeting on October 1.  Editor’s note:  See the notes of the June 9, 2014 meeting at which this issue was discussed.  Selectman Musselman stated at that meeting that he would be recusing himself from this matter as he is the District Engineer for the Solid Waste District.

 

Burned out exit sign light (232:11 elapsed)

 

            Selectman Mills compliment the new Fire Chief, Chief Lambert.  He has only been with the Town for a week and he has already noticed that the exit light in the back of the courtroom is faulty.  The old Fire Chief was with the Town for seven years and did not notice it.  Selectman Musselman looked at Chief Lambert, who was sitting in the back of the room, chuckled and said, “congratulations, Sir.”

 

Adjournment (152:49 elapsed)

 

            Whereupon the meeting adjourned at 9:21 p.m.