NOTES OF OCTOBER 27, 2014 RYE BOARD OF SELECTMEN MEETING

Final Revision B – Provided by the Rye Civic League

 

            Present:  Selectmen Mills, Musselman and Jenness.  Also present: Town Administrator Michael Magnant, Town Finance Director Cyndi Gillespie,

Interim Fire Chief Thomas Lambert, Police Chief Kevin Walsh, Public Works Director Dennis McCarthy (arrived at approximately 6:55 p.m.). 

Persons present from the public included: Victor Azzi, Mae Bradshaw, Marty Chapman, Lynde Karrin, Mel Low, Diedre Smyrnos.

 

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The video starts at 6:42:09 p.m. (0:00 elapsed)

 

Summary

 

1.      Treasurer Leon Blaisdell passed away.  Jane Ireland was appointed Treasurer through the 2015 election.

2.      Health insurance rates will be down significantly next year, allowing significant budget reductions.

3.      The town-owned Parsonage Apartments needs a new roof and other improvements.  The management firm, the Housing Partnership suggested that the building be sold to them.

4.      Selectmen reject sponsorship of pay-as-you-throw trash program warrant article, encourage submission of draft petitioned warrant articles in December.

5.      Selectman Mills opposes sponsorship of a warrant article increasing the Heritage Commission from five to seven members.

6.      Decision on warrant article eliminating Beach Commission is deferred until Beach Committee report has been received.

7.      Selectmen agree to warrant article banning fireworks.

8.      Rye may leave the Solid Waste District.  Despite Selectman Musselman’s firm doing work for the District, he failed to recuse himself from the discussion.

9.      Booting ordinance to be drafted for possible consideration by the voters next year.

 

Non-public session (0:00 elapsed)

 

            As the video begins, the selectmen are voting to seal the minutes of the non-public session.  Editor’s note:  The agenda refers to a non-public session for “acquisition.”

 

Announcement of the passing of Treasurer Leon Blaisdell (0:26 elapsed)

 

            Selectman Musselman announced that Treasurer Leon Blaisdell had passed away earlier that day.  In recent years he had served as Treasurer.  Previously, he had been with the Rye Fire Department for 34 years, 4 as Chief.  There was an extended moment of silence.  Editor’s note:  Towards the end of the meeting Jane Ireland was appointed Treasurer through the election next year.  See below.

 

Announcement of reduced health insurance rates and election (1:36 elapsed)

 

            Selectman Musselman announced that the quotes had been received on health insurance.  One plan is up 3.9 percent, the others are down 5.6 percent, 6.3 percent, and 9 percent.  The short-term disability coverage is going down 11 percent.  That will have a significant budget impact.  The budgets for all departments will be revised downward.

            The election on November 4 was also announced.

 

Consent agenda and Recycling Education Committee appointments (3:18 elapsed)

 

            Item B(1)(b), the increase of the length of the term to 3 years for the Recycling Education Committee was tabled until April 2015 as the Committee had been formed in April 2014.

            Item B(6), the appointment of Alan Bucklin as a member of that committee, was then discussed.  Selectman Jenness noted that he is a resident of North Hampton and should perhaps be appointed as a non-voting member.  Editor’s note:  Mr. Bucklin works at the Recycling Center.  Mel Low stated that Mr. Bucklin’s input is needed.  Editor’s note:  Mr. Low is a member of the Recycling Education Committee.  Selectman Musselman stated that if Mr. Bucklin is attending as a staff member he would need to be paid. Selectman Mills stated that his input and vote are both needed.  Unlike the other male member of the Committee, he is honest, he said.  Selectman Musselman indicated that this was maligning Mel Low.  Town Administrator Magnant suggested that hourly employees of the Town are not permitted to volunteer and would need to be paid or receive comp. time.  Selectman Mills stated that Mr. Bucklin could vote down a “wacky” proposal by Mr. Low.  Deidre Symyrnos clarified that the Committee appointments had actually been made in August 2013.  The matter was tabled until Public Works Director Dennis McCarthy arrived.

            The Selectmen then voted unanimously to approve the other items on the consent agenda.  Lynde Karrin of 190 South Rd., Rye Beach, briefly introduced herself.  Editor’s note:  By the vote on the consent agenda, she was appointed as a member of the Recycling Education Committee.

 

Minutes (12:36 elapsed)

 

            The minutes of the October 15, 2014 meeting were unanimously approved with changes.  Selectman Musselman noted that the CIP Committee is not a subcommittee of the Board of Selectmen but is a committee appointed by them.  He also clarified that the Building Committee for the Recreation Community Center that he had proposed would be a Selectmen’s Committee.

            The minutes of the October 20, 2014 site walk at the former Rand Lumber property on Wallis Rd. were unanimously approved without changes.

 

Proposals for Parsonage Apartments (15:15 elapsed)

 

            Marty Chapman came to the table to discuss this.  Editor’s note:  Mr. Chapman is Executive Director of the Housing Partnership.  Although the Town owns the Parsonage Apartments, the Housing Partnership manages it and collects the rents from tenants, which it retains to cover costs, paying the Town an annual lease payment of $10,000.  The Parsonage Apartments are located next to the Library.

            Mr. Chapman went through the history.  The relationship with the Housing Partnership goes back to 1999, although he has been with the Housing Partnership only since 2007.  The Housing Partnership obtained a $250,000 loan, secured by rents as it does not own the building.  This was used for a moderate rehabilitation.  For comparison purposes, the construction cost of new units is currently about $200,000, he said.  The agreement with the Town is a 20 year lease.  Priority for rentals is given to Rye residents.  As rents are at a reduced rate, the apartments do only a little bit better than break even.  The Housing Partnership pays utilities, including propane and electricity.  The modest cash flow is used to increase reserves.  Nothing has been paid to the Housing Partnership in the last 6-7 years.  The reserve had built up to about $20,000 last year when it was needed to address immediate needs based on an assessment by Building Inspector Peter Rowell.  Some donated labor was obtained through United Way.  Now, the improvements from 15 years ago are reaching the end of their useful lives.  These include the electrical and heating systems and the roof.  The Housing Partnership is able only to spend money that the property generates.  A total of $5000 to $10,000 per year could be used just to stay in place.

            Mr. Chapman suggested a refinancing to keep the project going.  Cycles of 15-20 years are typical for this type of property.  A restriction in the deed requires that the property be kept affordable, he said.  There was a discussion of diverting the current rent of $10,000 paid to the Town into a reserve, but Mr. Chapman indicated that this might not be sufficient.

            In response to a question from Selectman Musselman, Mr. Chapman stated that the loan had been paid down so approximately $40,000 was now outstanding.  In response to a question from Selectman Mills, Mr. Chapman stated that the rent, which is a payment in lieu of taxes, is approximately $10,000.  A new roof could cost $15,000 to $20,000.  The electrical system is now up to code after spending approximately $3000. 

            Mr. Chapman suggested that the building be transferred to another entity so financing could be obtained.  He suggested a subsidiary of the Housing Partnership could own it. 

            In response to a question from Selectman Jenness it was revealed that there were eight units, including a small house. 

            Mel Low indicated that the original idea had been to sell the property, but the voters determined that the property should be retained by the Town.  Although the Housing Partnership wanted to purchase the property, that could not be done due to the vote.  As a result, the arrangement worked out was a 20 year lease with an escalation clause.  The lease ends in 2019. 

            Mr. Magnant suggested a more comprehensive assessment of the building as Building Inspector Peter Rowell only conducted an inspection.

            Selectman Musselman indicated that, over the long-term, a transfer should be pursued.  That would require a Town Meeting vote, he said. 

            Mel Low asked whether the lease could be extended, enabling more money to be borrowed.  Mr. Chapman stated that the value is in the property itself.  He suggested a ground lease for $1 as a way to help the Housing Partnership obtain financing.  Selectman Mills stated that that is the arrangement for the Rye Historical Society Building. 

            Mr. Chapman asked whether the residents were happy.  Mr. Low stated that the people were fairly happy and are using the Senior Van.  He noted, however, that he was glad that the tenants are dealing with the Housing Partnership.  Editor’s note:  See the notes of the July 22, 2013, October 15, 2013, October 28, 2013 and November 25, 2013 meetings.  Certain residents, particularly including Anne Morrissey, have been particularly vocal regarding the problems at the Parsonage Apartments.

            A draft warrant article has been prepared by Ms. Gillespie to allow use of the rent paid to the Town for repairs, he said.  Mr. Chapman indicated that a new roof is needed.  He indicated that funding may be available from the National Park Service with a transfer of ownership as it is an historical building.  Mel Low stated that the building was built in 1810.

 

Pay-as-you-throw proposed warrant article (39:24 elapsed)

 

            Mel Low indicated that the name of the program had been changed to Save Money and Reduce Trash (“SMART”).  He argued that, based on the experience in Eliot, South Berwick and Exeter, a savings of $143,000 annually could be expected. 

            Editor’s note:  See the notes of the June 23, 2014 meeting.  The proposal was that residents would be required to purchase bags to contain the trash that they discard (recycled trash would remain free).  The large bags would be $2.00 and the small ones $1.25.  At that meeting, bag revenues were estimated at $102,000 annually, tipping fees (the cost to the Town of depositing the trash in a landfill) were estimated to be reduced from $87,000 to $49,000 annually and recycling revenues were estimated to increase by approximately $3000 annually.  The total of the increased revenues and the reduced tipping fees would be $143,000 annually.  It appears that this is the source of Mr. Low’s figure.  While this savings would presumably flow to those residents that do not use the Recycling Center through tax reductions, the residents that use the Recycling Center would incur the cost of bags.  At the June 23 meeting, one resident calculated a break even of 35 bags per year for an average household.  In other words, the cost of bags would outweigh the tax savings for the average household using more than this number of bags annually.

            In response to a question from Selectman Mills, Mr. Low stated that the Town pays tipping fees for 1200 tons annually and that these would be reduced by 40 percent.  It won’t cost anything, he asserted.  The Recycling Education Committee had asked to present to the Budget Committee and the Energy Committee.  They had been told to go back to the Board of Selectmen.  They would like the Board’s support, but are prepared to do a petitioned warrant article.  Town Attorney Michael Donovan is prepared to work with them on a warrant article if the Selectmen approve.  Mr. Low asserted that Mr. McCarthy was supportive but is concerned because it is a political issue.

            Mr. Low stated that he does not know why the waste would be down 40 percent but the recycling only up 15 percent.  He speculated that people hire Waste Management to haul their trash or restrict their purchases.

           

(46:51 elapsed)

            Selectman Musselman asserted that there is a difference for towns where there is curbside pickup up.  A significant percentage of the residents in Eliot hired haulers after the program was instituted, suggesting that this accounts for a significant part of the reduction in trash.  He asserted that there were people in the room with relatives in pay-as-you-throw communities who bring their trash to them for disposal.  He stated that he would personally vote for the warrant article as he hires a hauler and would experience savings.  He believes that Mr. Low’s figures as to the savings are correct.  However, as a Selectman he works for everyone and he does not know what the people in Rye want.  He does not like encouraging people to take their trash to relatives, he said.

            Selectman Jenness said that inaccurate figures for the number of households had been cited.  She also asserted that people who recycle would be generating savings for those who do not.

            Selectman Mills stated that he is against the program.  He cannot recycle any more and goes once a week with a 13 gallon trash bag.  At the earlier meeting the second row was filled with opponents of the program, he said. 

            Mr. Low asserted that the recyclers can be sold on this program.  Selectman Jenness interjected that this was the case only if the bags were given away.  Mr. Low asserted that his trash is a 30 gallon bag every two weeks.  He reiterated that the reduction in tipping fees would be 40 percent.

            Selectman Jenness suggested a citizens’ petition warrant article.

 

 (56:31 elapsed)

            After the issue of legal review of the pay-as-you-throw warrant article came up, Selectman Muselman stated that he had been pleading with those who submit citizens petitioned warrant articles to get them in in December so that the Selectmen could look at them.  Although he had earlier expressed concerns about using Town funds to review petitioned warrant articles, he now stated that they would be glad to have them submitted in draft form and have them reviewed.  They would do this for any citizens’ petitionwarrant articles  What has been done is counterproductive.  People should work together with the Selectmen on warrant articles, he said.

            Selectman Jenness raised the issue of how this would interact with the food waste program.  Currently, free bags are being provided for that program.  You can’t give bags away in one program and charge for them in the other, she asserted.

            As the discussion concluded, Selectman Mills said to Mel Low that the discussion had been “better this time.”  Mr. Low responded that the Republicans had not shown up.  Selectman Mills asserted that they would.  Selectman Musselman stated that it was not a Democrat/Republican issue.

 

Increase in Heritage Commission membership (60:01 elapsed)

 

            Mae Bradshaw stated that she would like to increase the membership of this Commission from 5 to 7, as permitted by the statute.  Editor’s note:  Ms. Bradshaw is Chairman of the Heritage Commission.  She stated that the Commission needed more members to handle issues relating to the Town Hall and other projects.  She referred to 2011 Article 18, which established the Commission with 5 members.  Editor’s note:  2012 Article 25, which passed 971-284, increased the alternates from 2 to 5. 

            Selectman Jenness indicated that she supported the increase.  Editor’s note:  Selectman Jenness is the Selectmen’s representative on the Commission.

            The discussion then turned to the graveyard program being advanced by the Commission.  Selectman Musselman stated that he had confirmed that there was no cost to add an overlay indicating graveyards to the new GIS System if that was done on the next update cycle.  He asked how they knew where all the graveyards were.  Ms. Bradshaw stated that there was information that came from Louise Tallman, and that they would be doing a walk.  She stated that 65 properties have graveyards and that there is no indication that any slaves were buried in marked graves.  Selectman Musselman referred to an 1805 History of Rye that describes the Seavey burial grounds as having slaves buried there, but with no graves identified. 

            There was then discussion regarding the Town Hall and certain dimensions of the stage in relation to renderings of the Great Hall prepared by Margo Villandry.  Selectman Musselman referred to one rendering showing long gowns and there was discussion of the functions that could be held in the Great Hall (a.k.a. Meeting Hall) of a restored Town Hall.  Ms. Bradshaw referred to weddings.  Selectman Jenness referred to a wedding at the Congregational Church with a reception at Town Hall.  She recalled an event in the past like this.

            The discussion then returned to the request for increased membership of the Heritage Commission.  Selectman Mills stated that he was against it, as the Commission has only been in existence since 2011.  He said “keep trying and see what you come up with.  Is that clear?”  Selectman Musselman stated that that was fine.  Selectman Jenness expressed her disagreement.  Selectman Musselman tersely stated that a draft warrant article should be provided and that they would consider it.  Ms. Bradshaw stated that the draft warrant article had already been provided.

 

Proposed dissolution of the Beach Commission (68:06 elapsed)

 

            Editor’s note:  See the notes of the April 14, 2014 meeting.  After Chairman Mike LaBrie’s appointment to the Beach Commission ended in 2014 there were two vacancies on the Beach Commission.  Indications are that the Beach Commission had not met as a group since 2012 and that Mr. LaBrie and the Fire Chief had been managing the lifeguards and other beach issues since that time.  Initially there were five applicants seeking to be appointed to the Beach Commission in early 2014, but, citing the excess of applicants over positions, the Board of Selectmen decided to appoint a Beach Committee without any authority, effectively making the Beach Commission moribund despite a warrant article establishing it.  See 1999 Warrant Article 25.  That article passed 1142-519 and established a three person Beach Commission.  According to that article, the Commission was to assist the Selectmen in hiring a Beach Supervisor and act as a liaison between that person and the Selectmen.  It was to ensure that the person performed his or her duties, and also work on the preparation of the annual beach budget.  No Beach Supervisor was ever hired as there was no budget for it.

            Selectman Musselman referred to a memorandum on the subject of dissolving the Beach Commission, dated August 14, from former Fire Chief Sullivan.  The Commission had been established years ago with a different purpose, Selectman Musselman indicated, apparently summarizing the memorandum.  It had evolved into a commission of beachfront property owners who were there anyway and micromanaged the lifeguards, Selectman Musselman asserted.  That evolved into management by the Fire Department.  Other beach and permit functions had been taken over by the Board of Selectman.  Before they act on this they should hear from the Beach Committee. 

            Selectman Jenness agreed, and added that problems relating to the beach had grown and that information from the parking study and the Beach Committee needed to be considered.  When the Beach Commission was formed the Town did not have paramedics.  The main function of the Fire Department was putting out fires.  People are needed with enforcement power. 

            All were in favor of tabling the matter.

 

Proposed fireworks ordinance (70:47 elapsed)

 

            Police Chief Kevin Walsh addressed this issue, stating that he would like to ban fireworks, but believes that is not realistic.  He spoke about property owners with large fireworks displays and the debris from fireworks landing on public property.  This occurs at all hours of the night, he said.  State law is complex as to what is allowed and what is not.  He spoke about an intoxicated man who could barely stand trying to light off fireworks.  Stopping this sort of thing would be easier if a permit was required.  The Police could simply stop the event by writing a ticket for not having a permit.  Injuries would be prevented. 

            Chief Walsh spoke about a fireworks distributor that advertises that Rye is one of the towns where fireworks can be lit off.  He stated that he believes that fireworks are not allowed in Portsmouth.  Town Administrator Magnant confirmed, stating that when the State legalized fireworks they allowed cities and towns to enact partial bans.  Editor’s note:  Mr. Magnant is the former Police Chief of Portsmouth.

            In response to a question from Selectman Musselman, Chief Walsh stated that there is a significant amount of fireworks other than around July 4.  These are lit off at 11:00 p.m., midnight, or 1:00 a.m.  Selectman Musselman suggested a ban, except for the week around July 4.  Chief Walsh stated that he did not believe that would pass. 

            Selectman Mills referred to a fireworks display at 1369 Ocean Blvd. and asked how many officers were on duty on July 4.  Chief Walsh stated that it was typically four, plus him.  Selectman Mills stated that that would not be enough to stop that sort of thing.

            Chief Walsh suggested that Town Counsel should review the warrant article.  He expressed concern regarding Town liability in the event of an injury if the Town had issued a permit.

            Selectman Musselman proposed a warrant article to ban fireworks and asserted that there would be significant support.  Let the Town vote it down, he said.  Selectman Jenness stated that that was fine with her and that people enjoyed professional displays such as the one at Parsons Field.  Chief Walsh referred to a “circus,” and a particular Jenness Beach property owner regarding which multiple calls had been received.  Editor’s note:  Civic News editors living near Jenness Beach and Wallis Sands Beach confirm significant displays of fireworks at late hours during the summer.  Selectman Musselman stated that all of the Selectmen would need to agree.  If there is a split that would be a problem.  He asked Selectman Mills what he thought.  Selectman Mills stated that four officers would not be able to control the situation on July 4.  Chief Walsh suggested officers from other towns could be enlisted to do sweeps.  Interim Fire Chief Tom Lambert stated that it has not been a significant issue in North Hampton as fireworks have been banned there for a long time.  Editor’s note:  Chief Lambert is the former Fire Chief of North Hampton.

            Selectman Jenness stated that renters and out-of-towners don’t vote.  Chief Walsh stated that he would draft an ordinance.  Selectman Musselman stated that they may have another “Live Free Outside” campaign.  Editor’s note:  This was reminiscent of the signs opposing the 2013 warrant article requiring bicycles to ride single file.  That barely passed, 554-537.

 

Model A Fire Truck (85:21 elapsed)

 

            Selectman Magnant summarized the issue.  Former Fire Chief Sullivan had discovered that this truck was on the town insurance, but belonged to the Rye Beach Village District.  A bill of sale has been prepared to transfer the fire truck at no cost.  All were in favor of the transfer.

 

Stone planter at 616 Central Rd. (86:40 elasped)

 

            Public Works Director McCarthy described the issue and passed out charts.  The blue line indicates the edge of the right of way and the red line the edge of trees and growth, he said.  Selectman Musselman noted that the planter was already out of the right of way behind the blue line.  It was then revealed that the stones had recently been moved back.  A person, apparently the male property owner, indicated that the planter was now 22 feet from the asphalt.

            Selectman Musselman spoke about problems with people planting vegetation in the right of way, or moving large stones into it, to prevent parking.  Editor’s note:  This was done by the Wentworth by the Sea Country Club near Sanders Poynt and is one of the issues involved in litigation involving the Country Club, resident Robert Jesurum and the Town asserting that public access to the beach has been blocked by the County Club and seeking a prescriptive easement restoring access.  Case 218-2013-CV-00134 in Rockingham County Superior Court.  Trial was delayed and the judge is reviewing summary judgment motions to determine whether a trial is necessary.  Selectman Musselman expressed concern about establishing a precedent.

            Another person, apparently the female owner, Mrs. Hodson, said that the stones had been moved back the prior weekend. 

            Selectman Mills suggested a statement on the deed agreeing that the wall would be moved back if requested by the town.  The woman indicated that she would like to align the stones with the neighbor’s hedge. 

            Selectman Mills made a motion to approve the encroachment, provided there is a statement on the deed.  Public Works Director McCarthy added that a hold harmless clause should also be a requirement.  Selectman Jenness seconded, noting that the wall was to be 20 feet long.  All were in favor.

 

Alan Bucklin appointment to Recycling Education Committee (100:13 elapsed)

 

            Editor’s note:  This was initially discussed as part of the Consent Agenda, but the topic was deferred pending the arrival of Mr. McCarthy.

            Selectman Musselman asked whether Mr. Bucklin could be appointed as a non-voting staff member as non-residents could not vote.  He asked about night meetings and whether Mr. Bucklin could be paid or given comp time.  Mr. McCarthy stated that he would be a volunteer.  Mr. Magnant indicated that, according to the Department of Labor, there is a problem with an employee serving in a work-related function as a volunteer and not being paid for his time.  Mr. McCarthy suggested paying him as they do not have enough people to provide coverage at the Recycling Center. 

            Selectman Mills referred to a problem if Mr. Bucklin is on the payroll and gets into an accident.  The Town would be liable, he asserted.  Mr. McCarthy acknowledged two accidents involving Mr. Bucklin, including one where he had run into a car with the backhoe. 

            Selectman Musselman suggested that he be crossed off the list of appointments.  He could then choose to go as a volunteer.  The matter was then tabled.

            Mr. McCarthy then asked for confirmation that he could go to the meetings but not vote.  This appeared to be agreed.

 

Solid Waste District (104:03 elapsed)

 

            Editor’s note:  See the notes of the October 15, 2014 meeting at which this topic and that of the bids for solid waste disposal were discussed.  Selectman Musselman’s firm, CMA Engineers had assisted in the evaluation of bids.

            Mr. McCarthy stated that the costs had changed as Hampton and South Hampton had requested to leave the District.  Selectman Musselman stated that Hampton Falls and New Castle would also be leaving.  This leaves only 6 of the 10 towns.  Mr. McCarthy asserted that the District would permit the Town to leave if the Selectmen agree.  Selectman Musselman stated that the remaining towns are an odd group geographically:

            Fremont

            Brentwood

            Kensington

            North Hampton

            Rye

            Sandown

Selectman Musselman indicated that these towns could only support one hazardous waste day per year, compared to the current two.

            Mr. McCarthy stated that he would have initially said that the Solid Waste District was not needed.  However, he has now seen what they have done together on the new contract.  The costs to pay for a very competent engineer and attorney have been split among ten towns.  Editor’s note:  The engineer referred to is apparently CMA Engineers, of which Selectman Musselman is President.

            Selectman Musselman agreed, stating that in ten years the town would be happy to have the District.  The town is too small to go through this sort of process on its own, he said.  As he started to refer to the hazardous waste day he stopped himself and indicated that he needed to be careful and should perhaps not say any more. 

            Mr. McCarthy stated that Selectman Musselman could explain.  Selectman Musselman suggested that the Town get a cost from Portsmouth for permitting the Town to participate in its hazardous waste day. 

            Selectman Mills stated that, when he was working at the Recycling Center on Saturdays, he noticed that the hazardous waste disposal levels were dropping every year.  Mr. McCarthy disagreed, asserting that levels were staying the same or going up.  The caps on the amount that can be disposed of are not enforced and they are accepting latex paint even though the State does not provide reimbursement for that. 

            Selectman Musselman referred to an audit done for the Solid Waste District every year by Jane Ireland.  Editor’s note:  Later in the meeting Ms. Ireland, who is the mother of the Selectmen’s Assistant Janice Ireland, was appointed Town Treasurer.

            Mr. McCarthy stated that the Town pays 69 cents per ton to the District.  He stated that there is a District Meeting on November 12 and asserted that it makes sense to remain in the District.  Mr. McCarthy stated that two more towns might leave.  Selectman Musselman interrupted, stating that it was best not to discuss this issue.  He said that the contract would apply even if towns leave.  Editor’s note:  At the October 23, 2014 all-day budget meeting, there was discussion that appeared to indicate that Fremont and Brentwood might leave the District.  See the video of that meeting starting at 10:29:27 a.m.

            Mr. McCarthy stated that the contract had been structured by the consultant so that towns could either leave the District or remain in it.  As he referred to the “consultant” he extended his right arm towards Selectman Musselman.

            Selectman Mills asked whether New Castle had curbside pickup.  That was confirmed.  Selectman Musselman stated that they had a small vehicle. 

            Mr. McCarthy said that Sandown is now the largest community in the District after the departure of Hampton.  They don’t come to meetings but they pay the bills, he said.

            Selectman Musselman indicated that Waste Management or Covanta would bill the Town directly so that the District only needs to have quarterly meetings rather than monthly.  Editor’s note:  It was unclear whether he was referring to the 69 cent per ton fee or something else.  Mr. McCarthy stated that Waste Management had been sending a representative to each District meeting.

            Selectman Musselman asked the others how they felt about remaining in the District.  Selectman Jenness stated that she had no preference.  It was a financial issue, she said.  Selectman Mills asked Mr. McCarthy what his preference was.  Mr. McCarthy referred back to his earlier statement, indicating that he had originally thought that leaving the District was appropriate, but he had seen how well the process of obtaining bids for disposal had worked.

            Selectman Musselman interjected that the process was not yet complete.  Legal fees were $20,000 to $30,000.  A single town would not have paid that.  They would not have gotten the tipping fees that they have gotten without that, he said. 

            Selectman Jenness expressed concern about hazardous waste being discarded in the regular trash.  She asked about storing hazardous waste, apparently in lieu of having hazardous waste days.  Mr. McCarthy indicated that that was not feasible as there are people who specialize in these and are able to identify and separate the various types of waste.  Selectman Musselman stated that it is very difficult to manage and separate the waste.  A storage facility in Vermont had lasted six months.

            Selectman Musselman indicated that a price should be obtained from Portsmouth for the hazardous waste day.  If the Town chooses to get out of the District they will need a letter from the Selectmen so stating and then a warrant article placed in January.  If the Town does not get out this year then it will likely be another 10 years before they can.  If the Town stays in they will need to commit to a contract with either Waste Management or Covanta by December.  Hampton had wanted to get out as they were concerned that the District would choose to build a facility, making them liable for their share of the costs, he said.  He indicated however, that there was a process to leave the District if that occurred.

 

Public Works Department Fence (123:26 elapsed)

 

            Mr. McCarthy indicated that this was ongoing.  Money is still left in the $14,000 budget.  He requested an expenditure of $1800 from the remaining funds, acknowledging that some trees would need cutting.  The property extends 680 feet, he said.  There was no objection to the expenditure. 

 

Precision weather forecasting (125:46 elapsed)

 

            Mr. McCarthy requested that a precision weather forecasting service be retained at a cost of $1500 annually.  A meteorologist would be working for the town, producing forecasts tailored to the location and isolated to a two hour block of weather.  Many towns are using this service, he said.  Currently, they watch the statewide weather forecast and monitor the radar to try to determine when snow will arrive and how long it will last.  Information would be received by computer and consultation with a meteorologist would be available 24 hours per day.  The center is staffed by meteorologists who also work for the television stations.  They will also be able to predict black ice to allow the Town to get a jump on it before the morning traffic, he said.

 

Stormwater management plan (131:26 elapsed)

 

            Selectman Musselman indicated that he had put this on the agenda as he had noticed a budget item to design the first two culverts.  He does not know whether the drainage-related projects are included in the CIP Plan.  Mr. McCarthy indicated that there was a list of 66 locations.  He indicated that he would do a breakdown by the size of the pipe and try to budget by year.  Selectman Musselman requested a map showing the Town priorities.  As Mr. McCarthy spoke he held up, and appeared to refer to, a bound inch thick report. 

 

Helicopter Regulation Working Group (133:01 elapsed)

 

            Selectman Musselman stated that he had received a letter from Portsmouth Mayor Bob Lister, an old friend.  Seacoast Helicopter had been conducting tours out of Pease, which had generated complaints from both Portsmouth and Rye according to Mr. Lister.  The Working Group would be meeting on November 20.

            Police Chief Walsh stated that he had been working with Building Inspector Peter Rowell regarding helicopters landing at a restaurant.  This had been shut down.  Helicopters had been flying right over houses and there is no federal regulation limiting the altitude.  There was also discussion about helicopters flying low along the beach.

            Town Administrator Magnant volunteered to go to the meeting. 

            Chief Walsh stated that there is no teeth to a restriction on the height over houses.  However, the helicopters could be inspected at their landing locations. 

            Selectman Musselman asked Victor Azzi what he had noticed.  Editor’s note:  Mr. Azzi has a house on the beach near Wallis Sands State Park.  Mr. Azzi confirmed that the helicopters fly low and sometimes land on the beach, sometimes meeting up with boats.  This flights are not frequent, he said.

 

Appointment of Jane Ireland as Treasurer (138:21 elapsed)

 

            The motion to appoint Ms. Ireland as Treasurer through the election next year carried unanimously without discussion.  Editor’s note:  At the beginning of the meeting it was announced that Town Treasurer Leon Blaisdell had passed away earlier in the day.  Janice Ireland, the Selectmen’s Assistant, is the daughter of Jane Ireland.  The Town Treasurer is an elected position, and thus can be filled by appointment only through the next election.  Jane Ireland was the Deputy Treasurer.

 

Beaver infestation (138:46 elapsed) 

 

            Mr. McCarthy referred to the ongoing issue involving 750 Central Rd.  The owner has agreed to pay 2/3 of the cost.  He has looked into the issue and most towns do not take care of beaver control.  Some even insist that beavers be taken care of by the property owners when beaver dams cause flooding on adjacent properties.  He said that, unfortunately, this is a “one way trip” for the beaver as they cannot be enticed to go into a cage. 

            Selectman Jenness asserted that the animals were muskrats, not beavers.  She discussed dam and hutch locations.  If this is a beaver, it is demented as it is not working where it should, she asserted.

            The subject of having the Rye Beach Village District take care of the issue came up.  Selectman Musselman stated that they had no authority relating to waterways.  Mr. McCarthy interjected that the situation might be different if the sidewalks were being flooded.  Editor’s note:  The Rye Beach Village District is responsible for its own sidewalks, always a topic of much debate as the Public Works Department assists by excavating for the sidewalks and the Village District has not always paid its bills on time.  See the notes of the October 15, 2014 meeting.

            The conclusion seemed to be that someone would ask the property owner whether he had actually seen a beaver.

 

Booting ordinance (145:51 elapsed)

 

            Police Chief Walsh stated that he had found an ordinance from 2006, however this had not been presented to the voters.  He had marked this up with suggested changes. 

            The discussion then turned to why the Town’s boot had never been used.  Chief Walsh confirmed that this was under Police Chief Alan Gould.  There was discussion about him having insisted that the boot be purchased.

            Chief Walsh referred to “red tag” warnings posted on cars warning of impending booting, and three outstanding tickets being required for booting eligibility. 

            Selectman Mills asked who would be liable if a car was broken into while booted.  Chief Walsh stated that they would not be on the street more than a day before they were towed and inventoried.  Selectman Jenness stated that Alan Gould had not wanted to tow cars due to the possibility of damage.  She stated that she disagreed with this.  If the car is where it should not be, it should be towed, she asserted.

            Selectman Musselman asked why cars could not be booted if three tickets had been issued over a number of months.  He asked whether due process required more.

            Town Administrator Magnant responded that the owner might have lent the car to someone.  While the owner was still responsible, the person might not know about the liability.  He referred to a certified letter being sent to the owner stating that the car was being place on the “boot list.”

            There appeared to be agreement that an ordinance was required.

 

2015 Police Cruiser (154:51 elapsed)

 

            Police Chief Walsh stated that he was getting a quote for a Tahoe SUV.  He explained that the officers preferred the Chevy Caprice.  Selectman Mills stated that the Ford SUV was less expensive.  Chief Walsh disagreed, stating that the costs were comparable if the lack of a second battery and a full size spare tire are considered. 

 

Cop Sync grant (156:36 elapsed)

 

            Chief Walsh had the Selectmen sign this grant application relating to a school safety program.

 

Adjournment (158:27 elapsed)

 

            Whereupon the meeting adjourned.